Caroline F - new arrest / harassment ?

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Caroline has just posted on twitter that the police were trying to force entry - WTF going on?

Three officers saying she has to go with them.

Three.

twitter.com/cf_farrow/status/1651514281471492096?s=46&t=rbPMHI1uvxUAiQC4E1EE3A

Dumbo12
So long as it not a whole series of comments to the point of harassment - ie unwarranted personal messages morning noon and night.

If it just comments that are disliked by the complainant, no threats, with the evidence of the comments, - then no, in my opinion it would not be proportionate or correct.

You don't have a power of entry for summary offences in any case.

TooBigForMyBoots

And where have I "protected my colleagues" on here?

I am saying we don't know what the report is - so we can't judge if the police were right or wrong.

As Thelnebriati says, we need to be impartial.

"The victim is very experienced at putting together cases against women and will have put together a convincing case against CF. Their MO is to fling as much shit as possible in the hope that some will stick.

The victim’s case is what will have been communicated to the Chief Constable and LT."

Two things.

Firstly, is there a "victim"? I thought that Police had been given instructions to refer to a person making a report of an alleged crime as a "complainant" so as not to assume the guilt of the "suspect"?

Secondly, I thought that I had read everything in this thread but I don't recall reading anything that identified the complainant. Do you know who this person is? Is that information in the public domain, eg. they have been bragging about it on social media?

He really does. He's irritated people on other threads, but this is the one where personally I see a real agenda. And it's not pleasant.

He's police peaking people in real time tho.

If he is really is a policeman then he will be in real trouble if anyone finds out who he is. I'm thinking of those solemn Crimestoppers announcements along the lines of, "Police are appealing for information . . . someone, a family member or a friend, must have noticed something unusual about their behaviour around this time."

Then the headlines, mirroring Harrop, "Troll Cop Stalks Mums Online".

If he is not a policeman, is he breaking the law by impersonating one?

"Fake Cop Trolls Mums Online" maybe?

Not it, Felix - YOU.

I really can't work out of this continual misunderstanding of what people are saying is deliberate or not. It's annoying either way.

But yes, need to grey rock the sealion.

Totally



It's getting very boring now.

If Felix's idea is to divert support from Caroline and/or to make the police actions seem reasonable, then he's failing miserably.

Its interesting watching his tactics, if he talks over us enough we'll shut up is the idea I suspect.

I remember Felix, as I used to have automatic respect for the police but he was so blind to the real feelings on another thread just after Sarah Everard was murdered by a police officer that it made me reconsider, how could I respect them when one was saying the things he was. Basically police good everyone else bad. I'd love to know when he's next on duty so we can chat freely without him

The complainant responsible for CF’s first arrest gave their side to the media, albeit Vice and Pink News.

CF’s twitter indicated it was the same person. I can’t see that she’s been tweeting at him, but I don’t know how the criminal law works if they’ve been slagging each other off from behind a block?

For her to be arrested, he must have claimed imminent danger and/or Surrey police must have wanted to shut her up.

I didn’t see her post any snuff lists or jokes about going to play golf at his house.

I don't want to sound like the Thread Police but I'd urge being very careful about alluding to whoever the complainant might be. MN has received untold amounts of grief in the past from vexatious TRAs with axes to grind.

Unrelated to this, I've found in the past that MNHQ are very obliging about looking into patterns of posting, rather than content of individual posts, if requested to do so, e.g. if one suspects that someone is not posting in good faith but rather to annoy, derail or provoke.

The last series of posts - I was answering Dumbo12. They were asking me a good question & I was answering.

I would find it very rude to not answer a question if i am asked one.

This is similar to the other posts in this thread - people raise a point and I answer it

If you don't like reading my answers to peoples posts - then don't read them. if you don't want to add anything to what myself and Dumbo are discussing at the moment, then why do you feel the need to post anything at all?

I'm not diverting support from Caroline or anyone else at all - and it can't be shown where I have.

I have also been accused of misogeny in this thread - but I am still waiting for where this has happened despite asking.

And its strange how you keep accusing of me of trying to silence people, yet the same people thinks its acceptable to tell me to F* off - breaking the rules of the site.

It’s a mystery why women don’t trust the police.. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-met-police-officers-arrested-29874376

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 19:27

people keeping throwing the same argument back time and time again........

Physician, heal thyself.

If, as seems likely, the complainant is a serial reporter of CF, surely they should be on a "Check Twitter, meh, FFS not again, ignore" list?

If someone keeps making complaints about more or less the same thing, with the same non-result repeatedly, don't they get marked as time wasters?

Like the old bloke who said that the Russians were breaking in to steal his milk and was down the cop shop several times a week to complain about it? The person on the desk would pretend to start an investigation and he'd leave, eventually.

I missed this one at the time. There’s so many it’s hard to keep up with the reports of police sexual violence against women https://news.sky.com/story/metropolitan-police-officer-found-guilty-of-rape-accessed-victims-details-through-police-computer-12849786

SinnerBoy
I know and I agree with you and there will be on a 'list' as such

Each complainer will need to present some sort of evidence to support their complaint - hence why a lot of complaints/reports will be kicked out at the call taker stage.

If there is evidence to say its malicious then we can look at malicious complaints, wasting police time, making a false report etc etc.

But if they have produced evidence it will need to be investigated. This then gets passed along the line to see if an OIC needs to be allocated to it.

But - the argument is that 'we' don't know yet. I agree, its very likely all connected - but 'we' just don't know yet. So 'we' can not yet judge if the police were right or wrong in this instance.

Before others complain about another post from me - this post is to answer SinnerBoy's perfectly reasonable question above concerning the thread subject.

Disclaimer - I am using 'we' to mean me, Sinnerboy and most others on here. I acknowledge that some on here will know or have been told the details of the complaint and I am aware that Caroline may have access to this thread or indeed people close to her. I also acknowledge that the reporting person, OIC and direct witnesses may also read the thread and hence will not be included in the term 'we'.

Another case where police can find the resources to go to a woman’s door when they want to #Plodding

https://twitter.com/OhNinaC/status/1654585219477827585

Crikey. So much of the same behaviour and from female DCs, as well.

What is the point of a feminist section of a forum where big old brutes can spend all the live long day telling us we are all wrong?

You aren't a feminist.

You know nothing of feminist activity.

You actively work against feminist thought

So no wonder so many people want to tell you to fuck off. More would if they weren't going to get deleted or banned for it.

Jesus, go get a life.

If you are concerned that we don't know that you don't know what you don't know, maybe we can all say 'yes Felix the 'policeman' nobody knows anything and yes Felix the 'policeman', we all know it needs investigation. Can we now talk amongst ourselves again now pretty please.

Honestly it's so fucking tedious. Just leave us alone. Go find a cop forum where you can wang on with the blokes to yours hearts content about stupid women eh?

Personally I feel that if people take issue with Felix’s posts then it would be better to address his actual arguments as opposed to going after him for being a male and/or a police officer. Or the other option is to simply not respond to him, of course.

We've done that for months.

Honestly it's the same old shit. So fucking boring.

What arguments? 'I don't know anything and neither do you' (repeated 5000 times) isn't an argument that can be addressed.

I must admit for posters that do long posts I look to see who it is before deciding to read and they have to be worth reading. Many posters here are, Felix is not imo. I’m quite sure he doesn’t read my posts either 🤷🏻‍♀️

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