Page 21 | Caroline F - new arrest / harassment ?

catsrus · 2023-04-27T09:37:51+00:00

Caroline has just posted on twitter that the police were trying to force entry - WTF going on? Three officers saying she has to go with them. Three. https://twitter.com/cf_farrow/status/1651514281471492096?s=46&t=rbPMHI1uvxUAiQC4E1EE3A

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 15:20

Anyone would think we just wanted to talk about police procedure. It's as if some people are surprised we are in the slightest bit bothered about the woman and other women being put through this over and over and over and over again.

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:21

Dumbo12

Of course - if its in a different force area - it may lessen the threat, harm & risk.
But it depends on the specifics of the threat?

Regarding the repeated DV calls - the repeat DV call example concerns the victim believing the suspect to be at their door - when police get there, they are no where to be seen. So we don't know the suspect is close by and indeed lives out of force. Yet the DV caller is adamant it was them.

At what point do we ignore the next call..?

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 15:22

SigourneyHoward · 03/05/2023 15:19

I do hope our resident police officer has set up a macro for this oft repeated line otherwise he's at high risk of developing RSI I would have thought.

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Oh I so can't put the answer i want to on this.

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:23

Boiledbeetle
Anyone would think we just wanted to talk about police procedure.....

Well it is the subject of the thread after all

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:25

Boiledbeetle · Today 15:18
Have you actually read anything about this case other than on here yet Felix??

And do we know this current call is related to it yet Boiledbeetle??

Papernotplastic · 03/05/2023 15:25

Metsplaining?

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 15:26

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:23

Boiledbeetle
Anyone would think we just wanted to talk about police procedure.....

Well it is the subject of the thread after all

Thread title Caroline F - new arrest / harassment ?

Notice the other word in there harrassment.

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 15:27

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:25

Boiledbeetle · Today 15:18
Have you actually read anything about this case other than on here yet Felix??

And do we know this current call is related to it yet Boiledbeetle??

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Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:29

OldCrone · 03/05/2023 15:12

You mean people keep throwing the same argument back at you after you keep repeating the same thing over and over?

Are you expecting something different from them every time you repeat yourself?

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Perhaps another view point to move the discussion on - taking it in to consideration.
Not just going back and repeating the same argument back at me.

See the post above from Boiledbeetle - We don't know if its linked, but yet I am being told that I need to go and read the back story to judge if the police were right or wrong on this occasion.

Dumbo12 · 03/05/2023 15:29

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:21

Dumbo12

Of course - if its in a different force area - it may lessen the threat, harm & risk.
But it depends on the specifics of the threat?

Regarding the repeated DV calls - the repeat DV call example concerns the victim believing the suspect to be at their door - when police get there, they are no where to be seen. So we don't know the suspect is close by and indeed lives out of force. Yet the DV caller is adamant it was them.

At what point do we ignore the next call..?

What if there is no threat in the online communications? Why do you conflate domestic violence with online comments, do you believe them to be equally harmful?
The pattern in the case being discussed is of complaints about online comments, which had no threat attached. People on this thread are talking about harassment, with the police allowing themselves to be weaponised by certain people, please can you explain why you are conflating a domestic violence complaint with these actions, of using the police to harass this woman. Before you tell us again that we don't know this was the case this week, we do know it happened previously.

BezMills · 03/05/2023 15:39

TrainedByCats · 03/05/2023 14:02

Since part of the thread has moved on to the meaning of words I was wondering do we have a word yet for men taking over online forum discussions? I can’t help thinking we must by now as it’s so prevalent but I can’t think what it is.

We’ve got manspreading for the way they take over our spaces on transport even though it is clear the woman does not want them in her space. We clearly need a word for that online. It’s not exactly mansplaining although thats happening here too.

Cocksplodging? Similar to when men spaff all over a female toilet because they enjoy how it makes then feel.

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:46

I am not conflating the two - I am using the DV & suicide reports as an example of police responding to repeated incidents. Could be anything really - criminal damage, theft etc etc I am asking at what point do the police stop attending if the previous visits by them did not find anything untoward going on? And I am not linking any of that to Caroline's case - just an example of police attending the various repeated calls which we do.

It may have happened previously - but we don't know if this current call is related to the previous ones - I'm not sure if I have mentioned it before on here.

If its harassment - its a crime. If it involves threats of violence its s4 harssment, if not its s2 harassment. Both crimes in law. Ditto for mal comms.

How this is effecting the reporting person - who knows. Is it just annoying or is it causing them significant mental anguish - who knows. They will know and will have to demonstrate this to the OIC together with the evidence to support their claim, what ever that claim is.

If the reporting person is using police to target 'this woman' just because they don't like her views & opinions - then its wrong and the OIC should quickly spot that and not class it as a crime and there will be no need for any further investigation. It should be filtered out at the caller take stage in any case

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:50

Boiledbeetle · Today 15:18
Have you actually read anything about this case other than on here yet Felix??

I will read it when I get chance too - I promise.

I can imagine it concerns Caroline being harassed beyond belief by one person or a group of people. And these people are quick to call police against Caroline whenever they see fit to. And hence this causes huge stress & anxiety for Caroline.

Datun · 03/05/2023 16:01

Frankly, an alleged police officer who continues to post in a manner that women have said is tedious, irritating, overbearing and domineering, can expect to be criticised up the wazoo.

As for me being criticised back, I'm not spending enough time on Felix's posts to notice (let's be honest, they're not exactly interesting - I don't think communication is Felix's strong point).

But I have certainly learned one thing, the next time anyone starts a thread in support of women being targeted by the police (in the teeth of the home secretary's guidelines), they need to call it a support thread.

HQ will often take a dim view of derailing and nonsupportive posts on a support thread.

Dumbo12 · 03/05/2023 16:02

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 15:50

Boiledbeetle · Today 15:18
Have you actually read anything about this case other than on here yet Felix??

I will read it when I get chance too - I promise.

I can imagine it concerns Caroline being harassed beyond belief by one person or a group of people. And these people are quick to call police against Caroline whenever they see fit to. And hence this causes huge stress & anxiety for Caroline.

Perhaps you could have read up on the case, instead of posting the same comments over and over again. Then you may have had more ability to post from a position of knowledge, rather than reiterating the same comments.
Do you always assume that women are ignorant or just on this forum?
You disingenuous juxtaposition of domestic violence calls and on line comments gives every impression that you conflate the two, especially when you continue to put the two together in numerous posts.

TrainedByCats · 03/05/2023 16:10

Sevenbells · 03/05/2023 14:35

Dickposting? Like shitposting but men-only?

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Thats works too

Tallisker · 03/05/2023 16:12

Cocksplodging. Dicksplaining. I love the malleability of the English language

TrainedByCats · 03/05/2023 16:14

Papernotplastic · 03/05/2023 15:25

Metsplaining?

Almost perfect for this thread, it doesn’t quite convey the level of disdain felt for the poster

TrainedByCats · 03/05/2023 16:17

Poor Caroline her tweets are heartbreaking

JanesLittleGirl · 03/05/2023 16:21

The way that this one is going, I would call it Plodding.

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 16:28

Dumbo12
Its impossible to post from a position of knowledge until we know what this current call is about - we have no knowledge of it. This thread is about the police attending Caroline's about this current call

I am not conflating the two - the query is that do we agree that the police should disregard calls from people who are vexatiously accusing another?

TrainedByCats · 03/05/2023 16:31

JanesLittleGirl · 03/05/2023 16:21

The way that this one is going, I would call it Plodding.

Plodplopping

DarkDayforMN · 03/05/2023 16:38

Its impossible to post from a position of knowledge until we know what this current call is about - we have no knowledge of it.

I just really hope Felix isn’t a detective.

JanesLittleGirl · 03/05/2023 16:38

TrainedByCats · 03/05/2023 16:31

Plodplopping

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This works for me.

Dumbo12 · 03/05/2023 16:56

Felix125 · 03/05/2023 16:28

Dumbo12
Its impossible to post from a position of knowledge until we know what this current call is about - we have no knowledge of it. This thread is about the police attending Caroline's about this current call

I am not conflating the two - the query is that do we agree that the police should disregard calls from people who are vexatiously accusing another?

If you had read my reply, I did indeed acknowledge that we did not know the alleged offence that led to the arrest, we do however know about the previous bad faith allegations. The dv allegations do not have equivalence with online comments (which contain no threats), one could have real risk of physical harm, the other does not. One would lead to the police visiting the home of the complainant and finding no offender, or evidence of an offence at the time the police got there. The other appears to have the police visiting the home of the person complained about, repeatedly, can you really not see the difference?