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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Elon is a Terf!

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CaveMum · 25/04/2023 15:42

Elon is wading into the puberty blocker debate!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650843875622232064?s=46&t=vZsKCHJJ4lL6NrAoNyJFww

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650843875622232064?s=46&t=vZsKCHJJ4lL6NrAoNyJFww

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Wanderingowl · 26/04/2023 18:57

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 26/04/2023 18:06

By what possible scale could Elon Musk be considered unintelligent? Thinking things you don't think doesn't make someone stupid.

I mean he hasn't actually built a Mars colony yet has he!!!!!!! I think people think that the fact that he doesn't succeed at everything right away makes him a failure. But Elon understands that to make the massive leaps he wants to make in terms of space travel and establishing permanent habitats on naturally uninhabitable planets. It will require the type of learning you can only achieve from an awful, awful lot of failure. As a private company, Space X is less bound by politicking in the way that organisations like NASA are, so he can make a lot more mistakes and push us far, far further as a result.

Most of what he does is done with an eye to Mars. Electric vehicles that can operate autonomously or from a central computer will be pretty much essential on Mars. Hyperloop, which is currently largely unworkable in Earth's atmosphere, will be the most likely long-term means for moving between colonies or from colony to mining site on Mars. Even the plan for what he wants to do with Twitter will be more important in a space colony than it is to us.

That said, I don't think he had the emotional intelligence to understand that most people value their interpersonal relationships more than their work. It means he makes demands of his staff that most people find unacceptable. And it's probably a huge part of what ends his relationships.

FlawlessSquid · 26/04/2023 21:34

CaveMum · 25/04/2023 15:42

Why this is terf?

JolyGoodBloviator · 27/04/2023 09:04

Laladybird · 26/04/2023 17:57

All Elon Musk said was that he didn't agree with sterilising children.

He didn't say nothing about whether TWAW, men in women's sports, rape counselling, speaking as though they are women etc.

It's a bit of a leap to assume Musk is a TERF in the MN & TRA sense of the word.

It doesn’t take much to get consigned go the terf bin, no need to be trans exclusionary (lots of feminists include transmen in their feminist praxis) and no need to be a radical feminist.
No need to be female either, which most actual TERFs would disagree with!

I personally like ‘terf’ as a separate noun that uses TERF as an etymological root. Terves (plural, as with elf/elves) are just people who said something TRAs don’t agree with.

So Elon is definitely a terf, despite not being a TERF.

OPs title was a dramatic flourish. No one here actually thinks Musk is a RadFem!

Laladybird · 27/04/2023 09:10

JolyGoodBloviator · 27/04/2023 09:04

It doesn’t take much to get consigned go the terf bin, no need to be trans exclusionary (lots of feminists include transmen in their feminist praxis) and no need to be a radical feminist.
No need to be female either, which most actual TERFs would disagree with!

I personally like ‘terf’ as a separate noun that uses TERF as an etymological root. Terves (plural, as with elf/elves) are just people who said something TRAs don’t agree with.

So Elon is definitely a terf, despite not being a TERF.

OPs title was a dramatic flourish. No one here actually thinks Musk is a RadFem!

Terves reclaiming the T word?

JolyGoodBloviator · 27/04/2023 09:22

Laladybird · 27/04/2023 09:10

Terves reclaiming the T word?

Something like that!

I don’t think I’ve ever really been a radical feminist, just radical feminist adjacent, so not really a reclaim, more of a taking the power out of the insult kind of thing?

Being branded a TERF used to feel quite scary but by using terf, terves, tervish, tervern, terfing, terfy etc it makes it funny rather than scary.

The Tervern makes us sound like magical forest dwelling creatures.

IcakethereforeIam · 27/04/2023 20:45

I've posted this before but terfyn is Welsh for, among other things, boundary.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2023 21:54

I have had many conversations in real life over the past year where from the outset I've said "before I start, I'm a terf " maybe it's my scary personality but I've not had one single problem. But that may be more my resting bitch face and the fact that i look like i could beat the crap out of most people.

ArabeIIaScott · 27/04/2023 22:07

IcakethereforeIam · 27/04/2023 20:45

I've posted this before but terfyn is Welsh for, among other things, boundary.

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