Elon is a Terf!

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Elon is wading into the puberty blocker debate!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650843875622232064?s=46&t=vZsKCHJJ4lL6NrAoNyJFww

Of course people you don’t otherwise agree with will agree that sterilising children is wrong. The question is why any people, especially those you know expect to agree with, consider it can be right.

This!

The purity spiral over the belief that you cannot change sex is getting tiresome at this point. Those of us who are in this fight for our own rights and those of our mothers, aunts, daughters and granddaughters, are not going to waste time policing the views if every ally - we need laws changed, we need minds changed. We need allies of all political hue and none

I think this actually raises a really interesting point.

The world seems to have become split into this binary - you must be either all good, or all bad.

If someone holds one view which doesn't align with your own then they must be a Bad Person and therefore The Enemy. We saw this with Brexit, and now again with gender. It's certainly the case with politics.

There are of course a few rare exceptions, there is the occasional person who is genuinely odious all round.

But as a general point, one particular opinion doesn't determine whether an individual is "good" or "bad" - and yet that's the narrative that's developed over recent years. Humans are so much more nuanced than this.

And made me question why I was gc.

A lot of people who believe (or say that they believe) in "gender identity" and advocate for sterilising gay and autistic children hold Hitler and the Nazis in high regard. Unsurprisingly.

https://panoramicgutterview.blogspot.com/2023/03/four-fingers-pointing-back-tldr.html

Pleased that I don't have Hitler on my "win team". As, I am sure, are you.

And to PP arguing that the OP is wrong because "TERF" is shorthand for a term that includes "Radical Feminist" - lighten up!

. . . Mumsnet needs a "Pedantry Corner" like "Private Eye".

He really is.

Mumsnet needs a "Pedantry Corner" like "Private Eye".

www.mumsnet.com/talk/pedants_corner

What does aligning with mean exactly?

Surely everyone who is on twitter 'aligns' with Elon Musk otherwise they'd have left?

And he also liked dogs and sausages.

Not sure what your point is.

I agree. But it shows you the quality of MerlinsLostMarbles's posts.

I thought he was a vegetarian? Is that a myth?

Hitler didn't "believe" the world was round. He just knew it was, as we all do.

Same as we don't "believe" that TW are men, or that humans can't change sex. It's not a belief, its basic knowledge.

We need to stop accepting that these are "beliefs".

Mumsnetters get wet for anyone no matter how dickish the behaviour once they state the one view that they align with. It's cringe.

I'm GC but don't give a fuck with Elon Musk thinks about it

You miss the point. It doesn't matter who is saying it, as long as people are saying it. The louder the better.
It;s not about aligning at all.

What do you mean 'align with'?

"And to PP arguing that the OP is wrong because "TERF" is shorthand for a term that includes "Radical Feminist" - lighten up!"

This is as light as I get, @Bosky 😉

Of course he's a terf.

Look at who you're standing with.

There's a guy in my village who is a hard and fast political bighead, who thinks that the Tories have sold out and are now the most socialist party that have been in power in the UK in his lifetime.

We met up once in the boulangerie because we live in the same village.

I don't 'get wet' because we both 'align' with the same boulangerie. We just happen to have used the same shop at the same time once.

I think people accusing women of 'getting wet' because their views 'align' with someone needs to fuck off with their mysogynistic fuckwittery. Wanker.

What do you mean 'standing with'?

OMG! I had no idea! 😂

Having had a look, it seems to be being used more as a place to ask questions about spelling and grammar. Handy to know about, though!

Please explain how Elon Musk is a Radical Feminist? TE or otherwise.

Perhaps it's time to remind people that back in the 1970s the main organisation opposing the Paedophile Information Exchange, a lobby group pressing for the right for adults to have sex with children, was the fascist party known as the National Front. So if you said you opposed legalisation of paedophilia, you'd have been aligning yourself with fascists.

Of course, most decent, sensible people understood that paedophilia was wrong, regardless of whether fascists agreed with them or not. It was just a small bunch of lunatics on the left who thought otherwise.

Shouldn't we look at whether the belief is true or not?

Or in this case, consider the ethics of experimental treatments on children that they can't properly consent to?

Who even cares what Elon thinks on a personal level?

It's good that there is less Twitter censorship, but beyond that, it's not particularly important.

"Mumsnetters get wet"

There are some revoltingly sexualised insults thrown at women on this thread, on a FEMINIST board!!

Mostly in the service of criticising a man for being a misogynist - you could not make this up!