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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Asked gender and pronouns on antenatal form

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bbypinkluffie · 21/04/2023 10:58

So I’m 7 weeks today with my first, and yesterday I got given a midwife, and my first antenatal appointment was booked, and was told I had to fill this form out before the appointment, it had an entire section where the questions were “is the gender you were assigned at birth the gender you identify as now?” And “what gender do you identify as?” And “what are your pronouns?” I didn’t want to participate in their questions, as I don’t agree with gender ideology, I don’t want to have to “declare” myself a woman, I am one. I don’t want to “identify” as a woman, I am one. I’m pregnant for heavens sake! But regardless I filled out the entire gender section, saying yes I identify with my assigned gender at birth, I identify as female and my pronouns I chose as she/her. I only did this to avoid being asked during the appointment as it’s my first appointment and my first pregnancy and I don’t want it being ruined by being asked about pronouns. I only pray now I’ve jumped through their hoops I won’t be called a “pregnant person” or “birthing person” or “chest feeder” now. For heavens sake!

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ChristinaXYZ · 27/04/2023 11:22

QuintanaRoo · 21/04/2023 11:19

But some pregnant people who are biologically female will identify as male. The forms are there so staff don’t upset them by referring to them as she/her if that’s not what they want. You can disagree with someone who identifies as a man being pregnant all you want but the nhs provides holistic, patient centred care and if they get it wrong there will be complaints

im a midwife and believe me I’ve seen the sort of complaints along these lines.

Wouldn't it be nice if they centered the feelings of those the like the OP who accept biological reality and find the gender question upsetting?

Not just because it is about gender but because the aggressive beheaviour of a lot of gender ideology activists mean that advertising you are gender critical during your first pregnancy when you are particaurly vulnerable might mean a reduction in the quality of care you get.

There are many instances of NHS staff on social media being openly agressive about gender critical women so it is a real and valid fear.

So this question has actually the power to distress a lot of women whom you, @quintanaRoo are clearly not interesting in centering nor dealing with holistically if you defend this kind of form in this kind of setting.

It should be up to the transman to man up and tell staff not up to the staff to seek this information in what is frankly an invasion of privacy - asking in effect for the patient's views, how ever protected, is absolutely not on.

SerafinasGoose · 27/04/2023 18:19

My kid is 9. At no point during my pregnancy was I asked to participate in this batshittery.

How could things have gone this far downhill in so short a period of time? I'll give them this: it's the most efficient and fast-acting brand of activism I've witnessed during my lifetime.

Grammarnut · 28/04/2023 10:20

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ThroughGraceAlone · 04/07/2023 15:43

I feel you. Yeah I just leave those blank. Hate those questions. Like, I don't want to take part in this ridiculousness, whys are you making me??

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