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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Judgement in Mermaids v Charity Commission tribunal expected in days

798 replies

RoyalCorgi · 18/04/2023 11:07

This is the case where Mermaids challenged the Charity Commission's decision to give charitable status to the LGBA.

Don't have any more detail at the moment, but thought you'd all be interested. It's been a four month wait already.

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beastlyslumber · 18/04/2023 23:39

Thanks for the heads up, OP.

Blankmine · 19/04/2023 03:30

@AmuseBish see @FigRollsAlly post just above, it explains the difference in figures quoted/available at the time of the court case and since.

anyolddinosaur · 19/04/2023 08:07

Datdamndamp · 18/04/2023 17:10

Hopefully we'll then hear from the charity commission on their investigation into Mermaids.

Waiting for this too. Time to say loudly that safeguarding matters.

AmuseBish · 19/04/2023 11:05

Blankmine · 19/04/2023 03:30

@AmuseBish see @FigRollsAlly post just above, it explains the difference in figures quoted/available at the time of the court case and since.

I understand- I was trying to ascertain which bit of the transcript @Carrie40 was referring to as even that poster's reporting that seemed to be incorrect.

If it is the bit of the transcript I am reading, then taken in context there is a full description of how those figures came to be. So I wanted to check we had read the same thing, because it sounded a bit wrong from what the PP said. But I guess they're not bothered about being factually accurate about who even said something, let alone something as complex as 'understanding data in context'.

Datun · 19/04/2023 11:19

I cant get over the embarrassing level of desperation required to determinedly leverage the sexual orientation of the LBG Alliance when the whole point of mermaids is to deny that sexual orientation even exists!

They're actually using the vehemently challenged premise of their opposition, to uphold their own position 🤣

As the bottom of barrels go, it doesn't get more scraped.

Blankmine · 19/04/2023 11:37

@AmuseBish - I doubt they ever consider context, it just wouldn’t suit the ‘massaging’ they do of the data! 🙂

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/04/2023 11:38

The problem is that some homosexual people saying ‘actually trans people aren’t in the same boat as us at all’ jeopardises the whole Trojan horse so has to be cracked down on HARD

people who adhere to the religion can’t even think it and feel compelled to punish others that do

MargotBamborough · 19/04/2023 13:01

Datun · 18/04/2023 22:53

Lol, well if you could only define lesbian...😄

If they define a lesbian as someone who identifies as a woman and is sexually attracted to other people who identify as women then I'd be surprised if the figure was as high as 7%.

potniatheron · 19/04/2023 14:46

Thanks Royal. Very much hoping Mermaids gets their arse handed to them on a plate as they should.

They found a new CEO yet?

heathspeedwell · 19/04/2023 16:03

Maybe they are waiting to see if they survive this court ruling before appointing a proper CEO. The acting CEO seems to be keeping her head down very quietly, which is probably quite wise in the circumstances.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/04/2023 16:06

About time! Fingers crossed ...

SinnerBoy · 19/04/2023 16:21

MishyJDI · Yesterday 12:27

Isn't the LGB alliance, mostly full of straight people membership?

Have you got anything to support your claim? Quite frankly, it seems ludicrous to me.

BreadInCaptivity · 19/04/2023 17:01

heathspeedwell · 19/04/2023 16:03

Maybe they are waiting to see if they survive this court ruling before appointing a proper CEO. The acting CEO seems to be keeping her head down very quietly, which is probably quite wise in the circumstances.

Or perhaps anyone considering the position has made it clear that any decision to accept the post won't be made before the ruling.

Fundamentally, the outcome has a significant impact on the job description in terms of a potential requirement to restore organisational reputation and credibility (beyond that already needed).

nilsmousehammer · 19/04/2023 17:11

SinnerBoy · 19/04/2023 16:21

MishyJDI · Yesterday 12:27

Isn't the LGB alliance, mostly full of straight people membership?

Have you got anything to support your claim? Quite frankly, it seems ludicrous to me.

It's just one of the scripts trotted out. Like the 'there's only six of you' one, and the 'most lesbians love hetero sex' one. There's never any evidence, just the hope that if you say it enough it'll stick with and influence the very gullible.

I think it was Rachel McKinnon who wrote an entire thesis on this.

nilsmousehammer · 19/04/2023 17:14

I seem to remember too a photograph being shown that was supposed to show how very undiverse the LGBA was.

When it was pointed out that the photo showed a diverse range of ages, race, ability, sex, the complainant (I seem to remember it might have been LoJ or the fox botherer?) said it was the lack of adult babies and people with obvious gender identity signals such as costume/drag/blue hair that was the issue.

Datun · 19/04/2023 17:24

nilsmousehammer · 19/04/2023 17:14

I seem to remember too a photograph being shown that was supposed to show how very undiverse the LGBA was.

When it was pointed out that the photo showed a diverse range of ages, race, ability, sex, the complainant (I seem to remember it might have been LoJ or the fox botherer?) said it was the lack of adult babies and people with obvious gender identity signals such as costume/drag/blue hair that was the issue.

Good lord 🤣🤣

Utter wankers. You have to wonder what their family think of them, don't you!

SinnerBoy · 19/04/2023 17:25

Dear me. It's playground stuff, isn't it?

Signalbox · 19/04/2023 17:52

SinnerBoy · 19/04/2023 16:21

MishyJDI · Yesterday 12:27

Isn't the LGB alliance, mostly full of straight people membership?

Have you got anything to support your claim? Quite frankly, it seems ludicrous to me.

I don't think LGBA is even a membership organisation is it?

Hepwo · 19/04/2023 17:58

SinnerBoy · 19/04/2023 16:21

MishyJDI · Yesterday 12:27

Isn't the LGB alliance, mostly full of straight people membership?

Have you got anything to support your claim? Quite frankly, it seems ludicrous to me.

I love this claim. Compare and contrast with Stonewall members.

What is the demographic of all the employees who are members of Stonewall champions?

Do the heteros get an opt out of membership of Stonewall Champions League?

The vast majority of Stonewall paying members are straight.

ickky · 19/04/2023 20:41

About time, it's been ages. Thanks for the heads up @RoyalCorgi

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/04/2023 20:49

might have been LoJ or the fox botherer?)

It was Owen.

SidewaysOtter · 19/04/2023 20:55

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/04/2023 20:49

might have been LoJ or the fox botherer?)

It was Owen.

Does that surprise anyone?! Gawd bless LOJ, he puts in such a valiant effort.

JanesLittleGirl · 19/04/2023 21:02

SidewaysOtter · 19/04/2023 20:55

Does that surprise anyone?! Gawd bless LOJ, he puts in such a valiant effort.

Especially considering that he has no real skin in the game. Could it be that he is just a committed misogynistic lesbophobe?

ShortSilence · 19/04/2023 21:19

Oh I would really like to see that photo now

FisherthemsFriend · 19/04/2023 21:43

Was Bundles involved in this one, or am I mixing up my court cases?

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