Have only just had time to come back to this thread, and have read through quickly and was interested in responses.
Though get the impression existing loyalties (or none) remain unchanged re party poltics.
Not that happy that some on the thread think just insulting someone who says something they dont agree with is somehow a reasoned response, nor does it achieve anything.
Thanks to all who named various Australians, but as pointed out the Saatchi campaign, (well within my memory) was the first. Have no idea what outrageous flyers were posted during the victorian era - but suspect many where libelous, or would it be slander?!
Not feeling that I need to defend myself, but for various reasons had a nearly news free long weekend, and (for all those silly enough to think that was the reason for my post) it isn't because I am a Tory, but was genuinely shocked at the sheer tackiness of the ads - and that Labour thought it appropriate.
And maybe have been a bit pollyanna, but had thought that after all the Boris bombast, and Truss hyperbole, that UK politics was settling back into a more back to basics approach.
We all know the Tories do it because they have, so it does say more when Labour stoop to this. (Happy to be proved wrong by those claiming to be political wonks if they have evidence that Labour have done this before.)
I would have been only too happy if Labour had produced statements about the number of people living in poverty, without a home, etc., etc.. And acknowledging that Brexit, Covid and then Ukraine have caused huge economic problems. And that Labour would do X and Y to stop the increasing divide between rich and poor, create more housing, halt inflation.
So I am wondering now whether in fact part of the purpose of the statements they have chosen were in fact to appeal to the right wing red tops. ie they thought they would get the Mail etc., to be more supportive by going for these law and order, issues in, lets face it, a tabloid type way. Rather than Labour being its usual patronising approach to its voters who thinks these shouty "facts" will be a vote winner.
The problem is the right wing papers are presenting it as an own goal by Labour, so it has back fired.
And the stupid Labour interns or whoever dreampt this up are thrilled because they assume that something getting a lot of hits on social media this means a win - rather than people taking a look to have a laugh or sneer.
Like others on this thread I live in a Labour stronghold both MP and council (who are incomprehensibly incompetent and seem to think their role is to be a dutiful flunky to rich incomers). But if it was a knife edge area, I would wonder about giving my vote to Labour because of the self id issue, made worse by their grotesque pretence at caring about women's issues, but then insulting women and saying actually you dont exist because a man can be a woman.
They are so far up their own self righteousness, that they genuinely think anyone who disagrees with them is too dispicable to care about.