Starmer insults women’s intelligence to blame Sunak for judicial failures when it was Starmer’s CPS that failed to prosecute rapists

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I am so fed up with politicians and their seedy bully boy tactics.

So Starmer having failed to get personal approval from voters who rate Sunak higher than him, doesn't think maybe I should try harder to be more relevant to voters.

No he decides to roll in the gutter and use personal attacks. https://www.jackfm.co.uk/news/politics/labour-takes-inspiration-from-australia-with-sunak-attack-ads-but-they-need-more-to-pull-off-a-proper-ousting/

I'm not saying the Tories are blameless, but lets face it, it was/is the CPS who continued/s to fail to prosecute rapists even when the police present evidence, because the CPS only want to take on sure fire winning court cases to up their stats.

So not only has Labour tried to make out Sunak (who became as MP the same year as Starmer) personally doesn't want child abusers to go to prison, but now has plagerised women campaign's slogan about how rape has been decriminalised. https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/the-decriminalisation-of-rape/

And yet Labour still doesn't know what a woman is, nor have they re-admitted women expelled from Labour for saying women are biological females. But think our tiny emotional brains will be overwhelmed by their crass statements about women's issues.

Labour seem to think that because this sort of politcal sloganeering used by the vote leave party were sucessful during the Brexit campaign, that this is how they will win the next election.

Which is worse? That our politicians think voters are such dimwits. Or that they might be right. https://labourlist.org/2023/04/labour-attack-ad-rishi-sunak-crime-twitter-controversial-advert/

I get really confused about the c-word rules on here and have often misread the banned one for "cunt" and found myself wondering what posters are going on about

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Cunt is fine I think - cult apparently not! 😂
I still believe that both of my points are accurate and deleting my words won't change my mind or that of anyone else who realises what is going on with transactivism.

Why bother to go on Sky to be interviewed, when you look duplicitous at the very first question?

She was asked the same question three times that if she is so behind these adverts, why didn't she retweet them. And she gave stupid answers that made her look shifty.

There is clearly no conviction. She does not feel the conviction that she is maintaining she has. If I felt strongly about something, certainly as strongly as she says she feels, I would bloody retweet the arse out of it.

Her main excuse was that she'd been away, and hasn't tweeted as much, although of course she has tweeted a bit, as was pointed out. So is she going to retweet them now? Because that will be a proof of the pudding, won't it?

I find her main skill is talking without taking a breath. But she just repeats herself. There is no depth of opinion about what she's saying.

Here is a report of a real life “cunt cult”. It’s a pretty weird article

https://nypost.com/2020/10/01/california-police-bust-cult-party-with-4-foot-model-vagina/

Rayner was just as ill prepared for that Sunday Times interview with Decca Aitkenhead when she seemed genuinely surprised to be asked about gender self-ID, even though Isla Bryson was still all over the front pages. At the time I thought poor briefing from her advisers must be at least partly to blame, but it looks like that was far too charitable of me.

Labour seem not to be in agreement on lots of things at the top of the party. This ad was one and now GB News has this on their LGBT wing and ideas for the GRA, and disagreements on TDOV tweets:

twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1646399870234705922?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

www.gbnews.com/opinion/keir-starmer-labour-party-trans-rights-gb-news-tom-harwood

And Rayner seemed to go against Reeves on capital gains this morning:

"Angela Rayner today risked reigniting a Labour row over the party's policy on capital gains tax as she said she wanted the tax system to be "fairer for working people".
The deputy leader of the Labour Party signalled in March that she was in favour of increasing capital gains tax but Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, then insisted she had "no plans" to put up the current rate.
Ms Rayner was asked this morning during an interview on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme if she would like to see capital gains tax changed and she said: "I’d like to see our tax system at the moment fairer for working people which is what Rachel has committed to."
The comments appear to suggest that Labour may still be considering a hike in capital gains tax.
Ms Rayner would not be drawn on the specifics of Labour's tax policy intentions as she said "we are far out from a general election" and the party will reveal its hand at a later date.
She added: "We will set out those proposals at a general election. We are not just piecemealing doing it.""

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/13/rishi-sunak-news-latest-joe-biden-dup-live/

The truth is when posts are unreasonably reported for deletion it ends up re-bounding on the position of those that do the reporting.

The Labour party is absolutely riven with intense disagreement and hostility - especially from the grassroots. Angela Raynor is still sat smiling next to Starmer even though her partner Sam Tarry was de-selected as a candidate due to his attendance ot a picket line.Reeves will be inevitably viewed as a 'Blairite' by many in the party and she will be hated for it.

In the meantime the LP is pissing everyone off. Left leaning women are disenfranchised and the TRAs think they are transphobic. That's where fence sitting gets you. The LP need to realise that smearing Sunak doesn't solve this problem.

They've made the Millennium Dome Mistake: they've tried to be everything to everyone but ending up being nothing to anyone (for those who don't remember, the MD exhibition tried to encompass all faiths, cultures and so on and ended up being an absolute clusterfuck that no-one visited except to see if it was as bad as they said). Here they've tried to keep TRAs and women's rights campaigners happy but, because they're mutually exclusive in some policy areas, they've tried to fudge it and ended up with just a sticky mess.

They need to have clear policies, not only on women's rights but on other issues.

And the biggest issue for KS/Labour here is that Sunak/the Tory party has a clear policy on women's rights. Not only that, but they're well ahead on this and just need to hold their line. Labour are scrambling to catch up, while risking alienating not only their own voters but MPs within the party who toe the TWAW line.

On top of all that, Labour has form for coming up with idealistic policies ("We're going to raise pay for NHS workers/renationalise utilities/puppies and flowers for everyone") which are idealistic but there's no indication as to where the money is coming from to pay for it all. And there's plenty of us who remember Labour's last stint in power where they paid for things by kicking the financial can down the road: public/private partnership commitments that had to be paid off for years afterwards anyone?

Labour might currently be ahead in the polls but if the Tories a) manage to look halfway competent (which the current administration seem to) and b) maintain clear policies with which the electorate agree, Labour might find their poll lead eroding in the run up to an actual election.

The Labour party is absolutely riven with intense disagreement and hostility - especially from the grassroots

One of the biggest problems with the Labour party is that they encompass a huge spectrum of left-wing beliefs. At one end you've got people who are just about left of centre and at the other you've got hard-core unions and communists. The latter particularly are about as flexible in their attitudes as cast iron set in concrete.

Aside from the issue of how on earth you'd bring them all together without fighting like cats in a sack, a lot of people on the harder-left end of the spectrum give the impression that actually governing would be at odds with their ideological purity.

Labour party left wing??? Your kidding aren't you?

Try comparing Harold Wilsons Labour party with todays Starmer led one.

The UK's political spectrum has moved to the right, inc the Labour party.... which is actually at odds with the general population, which are lot more left leaning than our FPTP system would lead us to believe.

Has there ever been a Govt that has secured more than 50% of the vote? at the last election, the majority voted for left leaning and pro EU parties.

Both main parties are divided, you only have to look at the ERG/right wing MPs and how Sunak constantly has to placate them to stay in power.

But back to the OP, if Labour wish to get into the Govt, they have to do things like this twitter campaign, otherwise the MSM don't report their views/ criticisms and we get you all complaining that Labour have been quiet on x y or z issues.

Utter rubbish. Most voters in the UK are centrists imo. The hard left is as unpalatable to them as the hard right.

The LP are ballsing it all up though that's for sure.

So you think the "centre" never changes?

Like i said, 57% of the electorate didn't vote for Johnson (they voted for left of centre parties) and the modern day Labour party is far removed from its roots e.g Starmer calls Dr/Nurse strikes "regrettable" bars MPs from attending picket lines and wont support higher pay for nurses.... or anyone else for that matter, backed by the entire front bench.

A Starmer of the 70s or 80s would have joined the Tory party, with views more akin to Ken Clarke than Clement Attlee.

The younger Momentum crowd who came in under Corbyn loathe Starmer, as do many of the traditional Labour party activists on the left. They expect nothing from a Starmer government but will vote Labour anyway because for them anything is better than the Tories who are perceived as inherently inhuman and evil.

The carping and crying will continue even should Starmer be elected - he cannnot possibly deliver on any of the issues they care most about. For most ideological purity is more important and they would rather remain the poor artist living in a Garrett albeit with perceived integrity intact than compromise on any of their principles.

Where I live the omnipresent Labour council is corrupt and incompetent and even the Labour Party voters and members wish it gone. Locally, many of the CLPs are rife with factionalism bullying and intimidation and hatred for perceived 'right wingers' and 'Blairites'. As you suggest, nobody will be at all content until the day of the revolution.

Rishi says 100% of women don't have penises

twitter.com/guidofawkes/status/1646494392457347077?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

When the Labour party has its conference there is a totally separate event 'The World Transformed' held alongside it at which all of the Momentum and traditional Leftists attend. They have nothing to do with the main conference or even any of its fringe events. The likes of Owen Jones, Ash Sarkar, Paul Mason attend and deliver sessions.

See now Rishi Sunak looks so sensible and normal saying that. Starmer looks like a lunatic in comparison. Honestly it just annoys me! I want to be able to vote for labour, or vote at all, but I’m not voting for someone unable to make a simple statement like Sunak easily did, on something so fundamental and important.

Good. Now he needs to explain exactly how that works with spaces. How women can kick out any man for any bloody reason.

Plus, it's not enough. Most people are like well dur. We need to hear from Starmer that if he still disagrees, how is it going to bloody well work?

Rishi Sunak has said 100% of women don't have penises, Keir, if you disagree, can you explain why? And can you explain how that affects women spaces?

Yes Labour now look terrible and it's all their own doing, they were warned for years and could not have been nastier.

I am not voting for them again, they don't want my vote, the deputy leader said so years ago, because I don't believe women have a penis.

And Rayner seemed to go against Reeves on capital gains this morning

If they can't sort this out, it will be really damaging. A lot within the Conservative Party are disappointed that Rishi is not delivering on low tax. (My guess is that he has worked out that the optics a year of so before the GE and with a cost of living crisis that measures to reduce tax for the better off would not be good.) But at the moment people fear Labour's unknown policies more. CGT is a big issue for small business owners who need to sell up to fund their retirement. It is often their pension plan. It's not all about 'fat cats'.

You Gov on political position of the public

2023 is so weird.

Exactly.

Arguements against Tory policies, lack of intergrity, elitism. Pesonal attacks are pathetic school boy politics.

But worse feed into the way politics in presented on the news as just being about personalities.

And even if there are charismatic politicians, the reality is that making politics work is about being able to make things happen.

Still waiting for the post that explains why women should give up their sex based rights to help labour win.

Is it that usual misogyny that women are only second class citizens and should never assume their rights are as important as anyone elses.
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