Riley Gaines assaulted

[Clymene]

She is the swimmer who has spoken out about Lia Thomas (both about him exposing himself in the changing room and being forced to compete against him). Now she's been attacked at San Francisco state university

twitter.com/hogshead3au/status/1644202379376578560?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

The mob violence is escalating

Some things the most fervent trans activists demand would be privileges if demanded by other groups. I have seen it argued that nonbinary people (who might have changed nothing in their behaviour or appearance) should have the right to pick any toilet they wish and any sex category in sports they wish, should have the right to be treated as women when it benefits them and not to be treated as women when it benefits them.

This means that some women and some men have extra rights based on something we cannot ascertain from outside.

I think there is a lot of learned behaviour from Antifa. It is a movement characterised by the acceptance of violence and organised violent protests.

Antifa gained popularity around 2017 and has caused a lot of civil unrest around Portland and across cities in the USA. Activists are drawn from Universities and Leftist movements and there is a lot of cross over with the TRA movement and the form of violent protest was copied from Antifa.

This rally in March celebrating detransitioners was violently protested by Antifa members and some journalists were injured.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/detransitioning-rally-turns-violent-antifa-shows-up-participants-left-afraid-speak-out-organizer.amp

There need to be serious legal consequences for those that did it and those that facilitated it. The stupid scrotes are all on film. I hope she sues their arses.

Lots of comments that these teenagers & youngsters are mad. Well yes, but where are the adults? Is the university going to expel them? Probably not as they are fee paying customers.

The fee-paying customers argument does have a lot to do with this. There was a time when students entered the university expecting to be challenged, to have their minds expanded, to learn critical thinking etc.

It wasn't all wonderful as universities have always been hierarchical institutions, and they certainly needed much more work.

But the basic understanding was NOT that students enter all finished with their mind development and that so the universities should respect and honour all their initial views and not challenge them at all.

Now it seems to be the reverse of that where the expectation is that of a self-service restaurant where the students only pick some additional bits of information which won't make them feel uncomfortable at all. And feeling uncomfortable is now labeled as feeling unsafe.

The change in model so that students are fee paying customers with universities in a competitive market is part of the picture, ( in the UK at least, but hasn’t it always been like that in the USA?), but the other half is the development of academics as activist researchers, with all pretense at objectivity not just abandoned but actually derided.

A good point. Wonder if the two are ultimately related, though? Students demanding certain types of research, universities responding by relaxing standards of evidence and debate?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c08o09hop_I

Matt Walsh agrees with some here that it's going to get worse.

I thought as the poo stain dude told his sister his plans, he wasn't seriously going to go through with it.

I tried to be central. It doesn't work. I'm sick of seeing this crap. They're getting more and more obtuse, violent and just damn rude.

I'm done

This ⬆️. Same thing with academic libraries.

I've very similar experiences in being at many kinds of protests and I completely agree. This is odd.

For example, I went at daytime to protest during the week after George Floyd was murdered and that kind of unhinged freak out wasn't happening. The nights were mayhem due to the looting and burning...not trying to minimize that...but the actual day protests didn't involve unhinged people shrieking and carrying on. Looting/property damage/burning cities after big protests is always wrong but it's different than these personal assaults against women.

I think I would have been one of these people if I hadn't also suffered from depression and extreme social anxiety at that age.

In my late 20s after a bit of therapy I self diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. The therapist didn't dissuade me. It messed my head for many years after.

When you are an outsider as a teen who can't form proper friendships at school, university is like a utopia. All those years hiding in your room hating, hating, understanding nothing but believing you are the one who knows the truth. Obsessed completely with your self and your thoughts and your hatred of your own body because society has rejected you.

Then university. You find your tribe. It is a kind of euphoria to be accepted at last. A fresh start. Your desperation to be accepted by these people is extreme. I spent hours online chatting with these people. Hardly left my room. Didn't bother with study. Almost failed. Having friends and my own inner thoughts was everything. A true bubble.

I was highly vulnerable to conspiracy theories at that time. Luckily it was too early, before the worst ones came. But I was a 911 was an inside job believer and revelled in my own cleverness.

I guess things changed when I got a job and met normal grown adults and mixed more widely.

The NPD thing though... I still struggle with a deep urge inside me to hate everyone and everything. I am a victim who is somehow superior to everyone else. I struggle to keep friends, these days from keeping people away on purpose so I don't find opportunities to abuse them, but also people just know, I suspect, that I am not a nice person deep down.

I have spent a lot of time working on my empathy and critical thinking skills such that I believe I am now able, with enough time to filter out my gut instinct to dismiss and hate and ridicule, to turn my thoughts into something much more sympathetic, believing in other humans capabilities, respecting their freedoms. It is not instinctual and I do slip up but I have built good processes to get myself there eventually.

I think I understand these kids very well, and I am not very hopeful for them. They might figure it out as they go into the real world and realise they are a very very small minority to think this way. Then they just moce on with life (harder when you live in a bit city the bubble continues longer).

I think the Intervention forces needs to start young as pp said, forget the teens a d students. You cannot resolve this. NPD cannot really be cured. It is rare to understand you have it, because it is catastrophic to your psyche, and it was to mine. But pull through that and you can find a cure, I believe I have. Noone else will do it for you. They are lost, best ignored / the law applied to their actions. Focus on the little ones now, stop this from happening to another generation of outsiders. We need a way to focus the attention of the freaks and geeks and their hyper focused adhd type brains to avoid them heading to dark and toxic places.

The red guard is a clue - this is about large scale social upheaval and transformation. It is a sociological phenomenon.

I believe the motivation of these people is a desire to keep faith with the belief in 'progress', which now means social progress. After the suffragettes and the black civil rights movement and gay rights, trans rights are seen as the next step - towards a future utopia of peace and equality and democracy.
This devotion to social progress has taken on greater urgency as the parallel economic progress which we were supposed to see has stopped and gone into reverse.

In the mind of these rioters, they are on the 'right side of history', and are clinging to their belief in progress for dear life, in the face of all evidence to the contrary. The anger comes from extreme fear - fear that the future isn't going to be the bright shiny one we were all promised.

Wow, @DipsyLaLaPo , I am really moved by your post. You are amazingly strong and deeply impressive. That level of self-realization and self-work is massively difficult. Few people, even without NPD, manage that. I’m genuinely impressed.

DipsyLaLaPo · Today 06:10

What you described about your experience of feeling an outsider, but superior and hating, and the hyper-focussed type, is very interesting.

Re: what you say here about early interventions,
I think the Intervention forces needs to start young as pp said I realise you mean in relation to disordered personalities.

But far from intervening to the good, the interventions are starting with the young to try to confuse some children into thinking they have an inner gender at odds with themselves, and that they need special attention apart from all the other children who must lie for them.

DipsyLaLaPo · Today 06:10
I too am impressed and moved by your post, not just interested.

Yes! This is exactly what has me so worried about the little kids. The interventions now are so wrong and misguided, it is the opposite of what is needed. All this focus on the self! I remember the moment my psyche collapsed in therapy. I had actually gone to the therapist to talk about disordered eating. He started asking about my mother... ha.
Well. I recalled neglect etc etc. And certain formative events. Like in the school playground at age 9, sitting alone while other children played, and ignored me. How sad.
Then... like a suppressed memory. I realised I had been pretending to be sad for attention. I had blocked that part away. The other kids were probably quite wisely ignoring my bullshit. Seems small but I had built an entire identity in my teens and early 20s of this misunderstood bullied kid. It was almost entirely imagined, I think. The realisation was mind bending quite honestly, I cried for weeks and the Internet explained npd to me and I knew.
So I worry about these kids because when you encourage them to reinvent themselves as a victim in order to be special and that becomes their invented personality it isn't their true selves at all! It is a monster! I am so angry about all this.

I just came across this on twitter - the 7 warning signs a movement is verging on terrorism
threadreaderapp.com/thread/1643946683569672192.html

Your post is very moving @DipsyLaLaPo. I've also been thinking of some of the reading I've done around cults and how aligned a lot of this behaviour is

The stories of detransitioners ring very true to me. They built an identity based on a lie and the work to undo it requires a lot of strength and many years of deprogramming.

Comment piece by Riley. It's quite disturbing reading:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11950063/RILEY-GAINES-hit-face-man-dressed-woman-speaking-against-trans-movement.html

https://thefederalist.com/2023/04/07/leftists-violate-separation-of-church-and-state-with-spiritual-sel-in-public-schools/

Social-emotional learning will soon become spiritual-ethical learning.

Many already follow this religion and would swear blind that they don't have a religion.

Their commandments are:-

Love the allocated special people as if they ard your God only, "be kind" only to special people, you don't deserve any kindness or love for yourself or non special people.

Channels Uxbridge "You must tell lies"

Include people who revolt and scare you, over ride your natural instincts.

You must use our language and new dictionary.

You aren't allowed to believe anything you want to, you must believe what we tell you to.

Equality, only in the intersectionality way

Diversity, only in the way we decree.

Bloody hell, that is chilling. That exactly describes the trans movement.

Trans terrorism.

Slightly off topic but the photo of the women in Afghanistan and similar in Iran are not what they seem.

Very few women in Afghanistan, none outside Kabul were allowed to dress that way. It's a bit like photos of punks in the 1970s, yes some people dressed like that but very few.

The pictures in 1960/70s Iran are even more dishonest, the Shah had decreed women wear modern western dress, there were cases of grandmothers having their traditional clothing ripped off them in the street.

The clothes women wear in Iran and wore in 1960s Iran are both dictated by men, the clothing is different but neither group of women are choosing what to wear.

Much of that is evidenced, it is very worrying. 4 and 5 particularly ring bells.

Surely no one could hear that rhythmic chanting of 'transwomen are women' and not conclude that this movement is the 'c' word we're not allowed to mention.