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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Young adults who identify as asexual feel excluded from the wider LGBTQ community

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IwantToRetire · 07/04/2023 01:03

From a survey of 3,695 young adults aged 18-25 27% said they “rarely or never” feel a part of the LGBTQ community. Aside from those who said they were questioning their sexual or gender identity, asexual people were most likely to say this.

18% said they “rarely” felt included and 9% said they “never” felt included.

30% of asexual young adults said they “always” feel included and 30% said they “sometimes” feel included.

39% of asexual people of colour said they rarely or never felt part of the LGBT+ community, compared to 24% of white asexual young people.

It’s also estimated that between 0.44-1 percent (295,768 to 672,200) of the UK population identifies as asexual.

The data paints a disappointing picture that suggests a significant portion of young adults identifying as asexual don’t always feel like they’re a part of the LGBTQ community.

“I hope that this research makes clear the need for greater awareness of the lived experiences and realities of asexual people, especially as we can see a wider pattern here of LGBT+ people of colour feeling excluded from our community.”

https://www.attitude.co.uk/news/a-quarter-of-asexual-young-adults-feel-excluded-from-lgbtq-community-430087/

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HermioneWeasley · 07/04/2023 01:10

Well being asexual isn’t a sexual orientation any more than not collecting stamps is a hobby, so why would they be in a community that’s linked by sexual orientation?

Claridges12 · 07/04/2023 01:10

Maybe someone who has no interest in sex would be more at home in a "community" of people who are not so focused on sex? Or with their friends who they don't have sex with?

IwantToRetire · 07/04/2023 01:43

Just the title shows how non sensical it is.

I wonder if they would be as concerned if women published a survey showing they felt excluded from the wider LGBTQ community?

Also shocked to note that the "I" community has been totally ignored!

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highame · 07/04/2023 08:20

Also shocked to note that the "I" community has been totally ignored!

Not ignored. I believe they have objected to being included in the word soup. They do not identify as LGBTQ+++and they were not asked for their permission to be included.

JacquelinePot · 07/04/2023 08:24

They're not normally bothered about what other people want, but I heard the same re the "I"

musicalfrog · 07/04/2023 08:24

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BraveGoldie · 07/04/2023 08:30

Asexual does not mean that you do not love or seek partnership, though does it?

I'm assuming that there are people who are seeking somebody of the same sex for a relationship or consider themselves of fluid gender, but do not want to have sex? And would like to feel part of these communities?

SwordToFlamethrower · 07/04/2023 08:35

So they don't want to have sex but want to feel included in groups all about having sex?

I don't get it.

Sorryyoufeelthatway · 07/04/2023 08:40

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Greenfairydust · 07/04/2023 09:13

''@HermioneWeasley · Today 01:10
Well being asexual isn’t a sexual orientation any more than not collecting stamps is a hobby, so why would they be in a community that’s linked by sexual orientation?''

Such ignorance on this thread...

Being asexual does not mean someone doesn't have romantic relationships.

The LGBTQ+ community is about much more than sex. Most people are also interested in issues linked to discrimination, parenting as a same-sex couple, religion...

You know, things that affect us as human beings, not just our genitals.

RaininginDarling · 07/04/2023 09:21

Greenfairydust · 07/04/2023 09:13

''@HermioneWeasley · Today 01:10
Well being asexual isn’t a sexual orientation any more than not collecting stamps is a hobby, so why would they be in a community that’s linked by sexual orientation?''

Such ignorance on this thread...

Being asexual does not mean someone doesn't have romantic relationships.

The LGBTQ+ community is about much more than sex. Most people are also interested in issues linked to discrimination, parenting as a same-sex couple, religion...

You know, things that affect us as human beings, not just our genitals.

FGS. LG and B are sexual orientations.

Everything else is personality. No wonder people are fed up of the alphabet 'community' it literally includes everybody.

Nimbostratus100 · 07/04/2023 09:23

HermioneWeasley · 07/04/2023 01:10

Well being asexual isn’t a sexual orientation any more than not collecting stamps is a hobby, so why would they be in a community that’s linked by sexual orientation?

because it is a sexual orientation

Nimbostratus100 · 07/04/2023 09:24

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asexuality has been recorded for thousands of years before the internet was inventee

fredabbm · 07/04/2023 09:26

The big questions hanging around the sexual orientation are: What's the definition of sexual orientation? Who can define sexual orientation? And How?

Nimbostratus100 · 07/04/2023 09:30

The main problem with young asexuals feeling excluded from the LGBA community, is that they will most likely also feel totally excluded from the mainstream community, particularly during teenage years, when all their friends, school peers and associates suddenly start prioritising sex and relationships above all else, and young asexuals are not part of that and cant relate to it in any way.

If they dont know any other asexuals, then they are likely to become vey isolated and confised, and the best place to meet other asexuals is in the LGBA community.

Greenfairydust · 07/04/2023 09:30

RaininginDarling · Today 09:21
Greenfairydust · Today 09:13

''FGS. LG and B are sexual orientations. Everything else is personality. No wonder people are fed up of the alphabet 'community' it literally includes everybody.''

So you are basically fed up with everyone who is not straight and you can't comprehend that there is such a thing as communities or that people are more than who they have sex with?

I think you are showing your true colours here. Very sad.

Nimbostratus100 · 07/04/2023 09:31

fredabbm · 07/04/2023 09:26

The big questions hanging around the sexual orientation are: What's the definition of sexual orientation? Who can define sexual orientation? And How?

Thats not a difficult question, people define themselves as gay, straight, bi or ace, who else is going to define them? no one else can, you can only define yourself

EndlessTea · 07/04/2023 09:34

Is this the case of D&I consultants creating unnecessary work so they can put it in their annual report to keep getting funding? Who the fuck cares?

EndlessTea · 07/04/2023 09:35

Just Like Us' Positive Futures report

Their fund Wes have been robbed.

EndlessTea · 07/04/2023 09:35

Funders

fredabbm · 07/04/2023 09:38

@Nimbostratus100
Well, that's where it gets twisted for me! Help me out here: let's say it is individuals choice to define themselves. Can they earn/get/gain the right of their chosen orientation?(other than straight).

RaininginDarling · 07/04/2023 09:40

Greenfairydust · 07/04/2023 09:30

RaininginDarling · Today 09:21
Greenfairydust · Today 09:13

''FGS. LG and B are sexual orientations. Everything else is personality. No wonder people are fed up of the alphabet 'community' it literally includes everybody.''

So you are basically fed up with everyone who is not straight and you can't comprehend that there is such a thing as communities or that people are more than who they have sex with?

I think you are showing your true colours here. Very sad.

No, what's sad is people needing to create more and more niche 'identities' to feel part of a community at all.

I find it really really sad that young, mostly straight, people need to box themselves into inevitably transient labels to improve their social standing.

Meanwhile, everyone else gets on with their lives.

Get outside more, stop navelgazing, you'll be much happier

Greenfairydust · 07/04/2023 10:22

@RaininginDarling

''No, what's sad is people needing to create more and more niche 'identities' to feel part of a community at all.

I find it really really sad that young, mostly straight, people need to box themselves into inevitably transient labels to improve their social standing.

Meanwhile, everyone else gets on with their lives.

Get outside more, stop navelgazing, you'll be much happier''

Again, just pure ignorance, and probably a fair amount of fear of anyone who is not like you.

When you have to resort to petty comments like ''get outside more...'' you have already lost any kind of credibility and any point you were trying to make.

I think the only person who is not ''getting on with their lives'' is you as you seem to have an unhealthy interest in other people's sex/love lives and how they choose to express and describe themselves.

This is also conveniently passed as concerns for young people to make your views sound acceptable, when it fact it is just good old intolerance and lack of understanding.

Wanderingowl · 07/04/2023 10:54

Greenfairydust · 07/04/2023 09:30

RaininginDarling · Today 09:21
Greenfairydust · Today 09:13

''FGS. LG and B are sexual orientations. Everything else is personality. No wonder people are fed up of the alphabet 'community' it literally includes everybody.''

So you are basically fed up with everyone who is not straight and you can't comprehend that there is such a thing as communities or that people are more than who they have sex with?

I think you are showing your true colours here. Very sad.

If you can't comprehend the very, very, very easy to understand meaning in the post you quoted you obviously have almost no critical thinking skills. You think your nonsense was some sort of 'gotcha.' What it actually was, was you devaluing everything you post and every explanation you try to make because you've shown your comprehension ability to be so poor that nothing you say is worth paying attention to. Well Done!

WeeBisom · 07/04/2023 10:56

When I attended LGB events at uni they were often pub/ club nights. The asexuals did have their own meet-up, but for some reason it banned alcohol. so the LGBs were hanging out , having sex and relationships and booze while the asexual students had cake and chatted about not having sex. At the risk of sounding offensive it’s a bit like evangelical Christian students saying they don’t fit in with LGB society - they just seem to have very different interests !

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