Suella Braverman vows to stamp out grooming gangs behind organised child sex abuse

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The Home Secretary, writing in The Mail on Sunday, pledges to 'track down and punish the grooming gangs with the same sense of mission and determination' used to pursue the murderers of Stephen Lawrence, the black British teenager who was killed in a racially motivated attack at a bus stop in South London in 1993.

Ms Braverman, who was born in Harrow, in North-West London, to a Kenyan mother and Mauritian father, writes: 'The time has come to make right one of the greatest injustices seen in Britain in modern times. The systematic rape, exploitation and abuse of young girls by organised gangs of older men – and the disgraceful failure of the authorities to act despite ample evidence – is a stain on our country.'

A Buddhist, Ms Braverman describes the 'perpetrators' as 'groups of men, almost all British-Pakistani, who hold cultural attitudes completely incompatible with British values'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11928629/SUELLA-BRAVERMAN-mission-ensure-really-no-hiding-place-gangs-grooming-young-girls.html

I am not sure if this is just the DM take on what she said, or if it accurately reflects what she said.

If she did say this and not talk about how men of all cultures, given the opportunity, have and will exploit young women, then she is letting down all the women who are exploited.

No need to fabricate outrage. Braverman is quite happy doing that herself.

with a GRC that is not the same as labours self ID policy. But you know that.

It is true that in a majority white country the vast majority of perpetrators are white males, often under 30. It's not surprising at all.

However, in places such as Rotherham, despite being a small number of the population, when it comes to CSA, men of British Pakistani origin are vastly over represented in those communities. Which is interesting isn't it.

Obviously we want perpetrators of all CSA to be brought to justice. In order to do that, we need some profile of who they are, how they operate, and why.

People are largely accepting of this fact when bringing white males to justice.

But far less so when it comes to applying the same rules to non white men.

There's some appalling double standards here. And the only losers are the young vulnerable girls impacted by CSA.

And there are adults here who would happily continue to ignore this, because, they don't like the Tories.

Hideous.

You seem to be doing a bang up job of it by posting misinformation though.

Obviously we want perpetrators of all CSA to be brought to justice. In order to do that, we need some profile of who they are, how they operate, and why.

Then I am sure you will join me in condeming a government that has cut the funding to the Criminal Justice system by 25%?

Feel free to point out any misinformation I have posted.

Is it for instance misinformation that the Criminial Justice system has had its funding cut by 25% by the current government?

No, but the article is about how she plans to go about tackling this. And i fully support that and want to see it happen. Don't you?

It is absolutely true that cuts to both policing and the criminal justice system has impacted this issue, along with many others. There are court delays of 4-5 years. No wonder some of the men involved having been brought to justice, we don’t have enough people in the system to process all this.

She is. Otherwise what else is she talking about? Online grooming? That does always seem to feature white men when you look at the pictures in the reported convictions.

Obviously we want perpetrators of all CSA to be brought to justice. In order to do that, we need some profile of who they are, how they operate, and why

Indeed we do, which makes it, by your own standards, why Braverman only focused on Pakistani men as very weird.

Rotherham etc are historical cases.

TBH we are getting hung up on this, where as the main point here is to see action and Braverman has launched only a consultation on action.... kicked into the long grass is how i read it.

Quite

No examples from the last 13 years of any effort to tackle what is apparently a very serious and pressing problem.
Then 3 days before Braverman faces a selection battle she suddenly takes an interest in it.

Yup.

Exactly. And one of the reasons these gangs have been allowed to continue is people not wanting to be seen as racist.

So the fact that SB is willing to name the problem and says she'll take it on is a huge win for women and girls.

I hope she follows through and isn't put off by a load of childish name calling and accusations of "dog whistles". (Funny how poc are always being accused of being racist - almost like the left can't bear it that poc are individuals with their own opinions and don't have to be LP supporters...)

Indeed we do, which makes it, by your own standards, why Braverman only focused on Pakistani men as very weird.

I'm going to hazard a guess here, that she's focusing on this one, because it's the one that largely been ignored for 40 years. Thousands and thousands of girls with their lives destroyed. Professionals who did try to help blocked at every turn.

It's not weird at all really is it, when you look at it in that context.

Unless of course, some people would like it to go on for another 40 years having got away with it for so long.Then those people might frame it as weird I suppose. If they were inclined to.

I hope she follows through and isn't put off by a load of childish name calling and accusations of "dog whistles".

Let's hope so.

It’s just you are talking utter rot. You’re alleging that nothing has been done, that there are no examples of the Government tackling grooming gangs in the last 13yrs when we all know for a fact that dozens of gangs have been arrested, tried, convicted and are currently in prison over the past 13yrs! That’s why no one is bothering to answer you, because it’s a ridiculous bit of misinformation to post.

Rotherham is historic is it? Nothing to see here?

Despite 20 men having already been convicted for their involvement in 'grooming' activity between 1997 and 2013, police officers believe that many more victims are still to come forward and that other perpetrators may still be free.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/rotherham-grooming-more-than-1000-victims-identified-between-1997-and-2013-3542879

I'm sure you would be happy to explain to us how cutting the Criminal Justice system funding by 25% has helped tackle grooming gangs?

Exactly. And one of the reasons these gangs have been allowed to continue is people not wanting to be seen as racist.

This thread is an example of what those girls were up against.

So do you just repeat the same point over and over? Ignoring the point of the thread. This wasn’t a dog whistle moment. This was a shameful decades long problem ignored because nobody wanted to deal with what you’re doing here.

I don't even care about the reasons why she's doing it. Whether it's to further her career / prospects, improve the profile of the Tory party, whatever. The purity spiral around it only being done if it's being done for the right reasons, with the right thought process, the rules of that being laid out by the left, is frankly quite absurd.

Absolutely shameful that people want to deny justice to thousands of women and girls simply because the initiative is coming from a woman of colour who they've called names and decided is bad.

Shameful.

Absurd and designed to keep the victims victimised.

What is being done?

Are you refering to the 25% cuts in funding for the Criminal Justice system that the current government have overseen?