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Trans woman threatened with physical violence by 'TERF'

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wontbesilencedbyyou · 27/03/2023 22:05

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11868077/SF-woman-threatens-punch-transgender-TikTok-star-expletive-filled-tirade-caught-video.html#reader-comments

Sharing this here as I feel it's important to see both sides on a forum like this, where there are many articles shared about scenes getting nasty at protests, and I haven't seen anything about it yet. Lilly was accosted whilst literally just eating a salad and live streaming.

My opinion: It's sad, and makes me fearful for the future.

San Francisco transgender woman is verbally assaulted while eating

Lilly Contino was enjoying her food at the Union Square, San Francisco restaurant when the elderly woman sitting at a nearby table spit transphobic comments at her.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11868077/SF-woman-threatens-punch-transgender-TikTok-star-expletive-filled-tirade-caught-video.html#reader-comments

OP posts:
Saltywalruss · 29/03/2023 09:38

Why was this encounter being filmed?

Autienotnautie · 29/03/2023 09:40

@Helleofabore it's been a while since we have chatted! How are you? You are of course correct. I agree with your point about culpability. It's not black and white but that doesn't mean every trans person is responsible for a few trans peoples actions and for a lot of non trans people's decision making/ignorance/collusion.

WickedSerious · 29/03/2023 09:40

He needs Rainbow Tea Room Man.

Hoppinggreen · 29/03/2023 09:48

A Woman would be very unlikely to film or even be very bothered by a drunk person harassing them unless they were very frightened or physically assaulted.
Having some idiot abuse you for your appearance is so unusual that we just shrug and think “whatever”

anyolddinosaur · 29/03/2023 09:55

Everyone should be able to eat a meal in peace, not being bothered by random people.

I've been pestered by random men before now. I've had to tell them to go away and even had to ask staff to intervene. If I filmed it no-one would watch that, though.

Males, whatever they wear and whatever drugs they are on, are normally physically stronger than women. This person was not really worried in the slightest about their safety and knew that they would get help if they needed it. Women are not so lucky.

KvotheTheBloodless · 29/03/2023 09:55

That's terrible, and really wrong - it should never have happened, and the woman who was harassing the lady filming should have been escorted out straight away.

Thankfully such incidents are rare, but that doesn't make it OK.

Hoppinggreen · 29/03/2023 10:16

KvotheTheBloodless · 29/03/2023 09:55

That's terrible, and really wrong - it should never have happened, and the woman who was harassing the lady filming should have been escorted out straight away.

Thankfully such incidents are rare, but that doesn't make it OK.

They are rare if you are a straight white man

Hoppinggreen · 29/03/2023 10:18

anyolddinosaur · 29/03/2023 09:55

Everyone should be able to eat a meal in peace, not being bothered by random people.

I've been pestered by random men before now. I've had to tell them to go away and even had to ask staff to intervene. If I filmed it no-one would watch that, though.

Males, whatever they wear and whatever drugs they are on, are normally physically stronger than women. This person was not really worried in the slightest about their safety and knew that they would get help if they needed it. Women are not so lucky.

Completely agree. It’s wrong and should not have happened.
However, I imagine Lily was not terrified that the old lady would physically attack them and even if that happened I think we know who would come off worst

DerekFaker · 29/03/2023 11:06

Hoppinggreen · 29/03/2023 10:16

They are rare if you are a straight white man

But not if you're somewhere outside the 'norm'. People who are 'different' have always been picked on.

Florissante · 30/03/2023 07:25

pettysquabbles · 29/03/2023 09:12

It's in the Daily Fail so O'm not even going to read it.

Your loss.

twitterexile · 30/03/2023 07:41

KvotheTheBloodless · 29/03/2023 09:55

That's terrible, and really wrong - it should never have happened, and the woman who was harassing the lady filming should have been escorted out straight away.

Thankfully such incidents are rare, but that doesn't make it OK.

Lady?! 😂

DerekFaker · 30/03/2023 08:30

pettysquabbles · Yesterday 09:12

It's in the Daily Fail so O'm not even going to read it.

Oh ffs 🙄

pettysquabbles · 30/03/2023 08:56

Florissante · 30/03/2023 07:25

Your loss.

Not really. I boycott the DM in the same way I do other vile companies e.g. Nestle. Now mint Aero's.....they are a loss.

RoseslnTheHospital · 30/03/2023 09:05

www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/viral-tiktok-cheesecake-factory-17832648.php

A non DM source for the story.

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 09:50

"full time content creator"

Aye, I'll bet.

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