Film of protest outside the Lesbian Project meeting

[DameMaud]

This needs to be shared far and wide!
Made by a YouTube auditor who had no idea what the protest was about and was shocked by the protesters and police.
Think he has just peaked a few thousand more people ( read the comments!)

Fortunately, the only thing that women need to be able to do is publicise what's happening. Talk about it. Show the words and actions of men who are violating women's boundaries. And the results of transing children, and, crucially, how it's done. From social media contagion to being instructed in trans ideology at school.

If these auditors can help them achieve that aim, it removes hurdles that are being deliberately put in our way, sanctioned by the police.

The police involvement will be catnip to them.

If these auditors can help them achieve that aim, it removes hurdles that are being deliberately put in our way, sanctioned by the police.

The police involvement will be catnip to them.

I hope you are right and it is this group of people who turn up to record events, they know the law and their rights so I would expect them to be law abiding. The last thing we need is men who think that the solution to this is violence, there is already enough of that on the other side.

You begin to think the world has gone mad when you see a Jamaican man riffing 'I am not a nazi' and doing his own version of the 'cabaret' tactic back at the group in another protest. They simply cannot deal with it and get even more ridiculous. A woman with a loud speaker declaring him a 'foreigner', in front of people holding signs declaring 'no racism'.

Now he again is not necessarily aligned with anything but a final outcome of one particular issue to any feminist or women's rights effort. He is just as likely to want that outcome for his own reasons and motivations. But he is exposing the hypocritical and ridiculousness that has passed for rhetoric and fuelling their tactics from these protestors.

Plus his sign, 'groom dogs not kids' should be a mantra that everyone agrees with.

https://twitter.com/Remeece1/status/1639766139554209794?s=20

I believe this has been posted before.

I am not sure who this is, scanning his twitter feed, I am pretty sure I would disagree with him on a few issues, maybe more. But that is beside the point, it is his tactics of mirroring that I am highlighting here.

You begin to think the world has gone mad when you see a Jamaican man riffing 'I am not a nazi' and doing his own version of the 'cabaret' tactic back at the group in another protest. They simply cannot deal with it and get even more ridiculous. A woman with a loud speaker declaring him a 'foreigner', in front of people holding signs declaring 'no racism'.

OMG

A Jewish gay man called a Nazi at the Honour Oak protest.

A black man called a Nazi at the Honour Oak protest.

A random passerby called a Nazi for filming the Lesbian Project protest.

These people are throwing the words 'Nazi' and 'fash' at people who have legitimate reason to know what the words actually mean. It's nonsense, but it's also incredibly disrespectful, for one thing, and trivialises actual fascism and Nazism.

We had the Emperor's New Clothes for years, we're now also seeing the Boy Who Cried Wolf play out before us.

I don’t know about you, but I felt a queasy, dull thud, like something fundamental to modern society broke over the weekend.

New Zealand, The Lesbian Project and Speakers’ Corner.

The police bias towards and collusion with thugs, women’s helplessness in the face of them. The extreme, violent attempts to suppress the most humble demands of women - to speak the truth and be heard, to assemble freely, in peace, to focus on our own needs.

I can understand what appears to be the apathy of the police. Their crowd control tactics were formed through appeasing warring tribe of men - mods & rockers, football hooligans, The National Front and anti-racists. Makes me think of the picture The Specials painted . There was a lot in the press about police brutality and racism. I grew up almost believing that ‘the pigs’ or ‘the filth’ were legitimate names for the police.

In the 90s the police took a ‘softly, softly’ approach with ravers and young people, I remember a friend even had a spliff handed back to him, because the officer wanted him to not mess up his future, and when Brian Paddick became the Police Commissioner, I remember him talking a lot about ‘policing by consent’ - and there was work on optics, trying to win the trust of ethnic minorities and the LGB communities. Lots images of bobbies dancing at Notting Hill Carnival and proposing to their parter at Gay Pride.

It is obvious the police focus and strategy has become : “avoid escalating the situation above everything” and “avoid damaging our careful work on building trust with the public over the last couple of decades by appearing to be heavy-handed in any way”.

They know that women aren’t physically built for hand-to -hand combat like men (with their dense bones, thicker cheek, forehead and jawbones, and upper body strength) and women aren’t aggressive and testosterone-fuelled either, so they know the women will abide by the law and the rules, effectively policing themselves, and they know it won’t escalate into a full-blown riot. Therefore, no need for a police presence to stop them starting a riot.

Dear God. The whole fake application of labels does not get more exemplified.

They look ridiculous

I believe there are many people who have no clue about the threat to female-only spaces, whether it’s loos, changing rooms, prisons, rape crisis centres, domestic violence refuges, hospital wards, sporting events and other competitions, or lesbian dating pools. And no idea that women aren’t allowed to talk about issues that affect them as women based on their biology because it’s not kind to exclude trans and non-binary people. I’ve only recently ‘peaked’. If these auditors can bring some sunlight to the issue, then all power to them. Women might feel safer knowing it’s all being recorded, and maybe the more militant TRAs will rein themselves in. Even the police might realise just how useless they are being in failing to keep the peace. Pretty embarrassing really.

I don’t know about you, but I felt a queasy, dull thud, like something fundamental to modern society broke over the weekend.

I felt the same thud, endless.

But I don't think it broke over the weekend. I think it was already broken. We just saw it slither out.

Fortunately, so did everyone else. And I still genuinely think it's only a minority of people who think and behave like that.

And this might sound hyperbolic, but you know what, I'm bloody glad we've all got the vote still. Because we can control who supports this.

As ever, it's just spreading the word.

I don’t know about you, but I felt a queasy, dull thud, like something fundamental to modern society broke over the weekend.

Interesting description, Endless. I agree. It feels like what had been a sort of formless drifting miasma suddenly came into sharp, ugly focus.

I heard the thud. I hope it was the scales falling from people's eyes. We'll see.

Remember has done a song, 8 mins. I've not listened to all of it. Can't wait for the video!

https://twitter.com/Remeece1/status/1640446287689424912?s=20

Gosh, the police were really determined to allow those people to do anything they wanted to others on a public street. No matter the detriment, it seemed. All equal before the law seems to be discarded.

When he was being abused on various occasions, the police trying to shut him down and really saying he shouldn't make a fuss. What does 'Its bigger' mean? Their slice of rights are bigger, and tough for him. Sort of 'it is your fault they are abusing you'. Also, it was interesting at roughly 28:11, the policeman asking him why they were chasing him up and down the street. He was there and could see they were just chasing the guy around, and blocking his movement on the street whilst they were calling him a fascist. And, he asks the guy why that was happening. Why didn't the police ask the mob to explain their actions?

He had the personality required for the occasion. When he said 'you don't know what you're talking about', the girl in denim looked amazed that anyone would answer her spiel back. You're 'chatting nonsense' to the chappie 'handler'.

A good few years back in Ireland, some autocratic types were described as 'Little Ayatollahs'. As some said, there was very much a Scientology feel to the assorted 'handler' types who approached him. There was also a little red army/ little Ayatollah feel too. They would have done well in East Germany of bygone days.

Cake I appreciate the link. I really hope we can hold onto warmth, joy and humour like this.

The thud to me, was that something has been strained for a long time, people have buttoned their lips, stayed out of it “this isn’t my business or area of expertise- I’m bound to get it wrong if I’m not politically correct”.

Like when female pimps are wheeled out to represent pimps as a group, in order to fight against feminists, a lot of people think “ah it’s just a load of women squabbling between themselves - wake me up when there’s any point in looking”.

Suddenly, last weekend, it became obvious that it isn’t just “women squabbling amongst themselves” and that the LGBTQIIA++ isn’t just a group of feminised, harmless males and equally harmless women.

Instead people are seeing that there are violent, male thugs who would stoop as low as punching older women in the face, terrorising and screaming at women, banding together to create a cacophony so women’s voices can’t be heard.

The strain of all the people holding back, buttoning lips, being polite and civilised, allowing things to resolve diplomatically against this insanely demanding, authoritarian group was stretched too far. I think something collectively snapped.

These people are throwing the words 'Nazi' and 'fash' at people who have legitimate reason to know what the words actually mean. It's nonsense, but it's also incredibly disrespectful, for one thing, and trivialises actual fascism and Nazism.

This is exactly it.

I think that's very astute , Endless

’foreigner’ as an insult

from people who think they’re not racist

right you are

The way the various 'handlers' were shadowing the streamer seemed quite disconcerting. When they weren't trying to work him, they would stare, flow a little, and then turn up again gawking at him. Little huddles every so often, which I presume resulted in the cardboard obstruction fence and kettling attempts to prevent him filming them.

'Would you consider not' seems to be the term of choice. The woman in the green coat, the chappie in the purple mask ("chatting absolute nonsense"), the woman in the grey t-shirt and combats, the American sounding woman (who was chatting with the green coat handler at the end when police got his phone back) all seemed to be involved in directing things.

It was a little sinister, really. Even without the police bias.

I have no idea if the first "intervener", who asked our hero if "he'd rather not film" was trans, but the second one was deffo female.
Likely both female.
What's fascinating is that both had need of a typical male for back up.
Meaning that even in this TRA utopian world, apparently devoid of traditional gender stereotypes, the situation was ABSOLUTELY stereotypical, an alpha male presence needed to make their point and keep the little ladies safe.
What a bust!

I really liked him.

He’s a much better dancer than the GenderIdentityEnthusiasts at the ‘street party’.

If they are going to insist on turning up to ‘counter protest’ a non-existent protest, maybe we should organise a ‘counter protest’ party of our own?

A counter-counter protest-party? 😆

(I’m now humming ‘There was an old lady who swallowed a fly’ a the thought of a never ending relay of counter-counter-counter-counter protest parties outside a meeting of chipper lesbians with puppies)

In retrospect, American accented person may have been another chappie. Hard to get a good look, and voice quite deep. However, they are chucking testosterone at girls and young women now.

Laughing at purple masked chappie being referred to as 'alpha' anything. 'I don't understand 'anything, ever' bs.

Yes, not so much alpha as piss poor, lol.
My bigger point is that a bigger guy was needed, and this fits the trope of females needing protection.
Plus ca change...

Yes, not so much alpha as piss poor, lol.
My bigger point is that a bigger guy was needed, and this fits the trope of females needing protection.
Plus ca change.

I really see what you are saying in this. It is simply another social organisation by patriarchal hierarchy.

This is part of what I think is going to break things at the moment.

Men are instinctively competitive and hierarchical in the way they organise, compared to women - there are unspoken codes of fair play and everything - these exist and are respected to minimise dangerous conflict - just like other species.

Seeing this guy here, who would be the ‘omega’ amongst men acting as the ‘alpha’ amongst women - would just make a lot of men, outside their group, weirdly twitchy. I have this uncomfortable feeling there are a lot of men itching for a violent takeover to put these omega males back in their place right now.

I fear for gay men. i reckon they could really do with a way of signalling that they are gender critical for their safety.

We all need to make our voices known. Deluge MPs, BBC etc with emails. Social media feeds.
Talk publically, yes even at work where things may be most fraught.
And show ourselves in public.
For that me, that means the LWS event at Spkrs Cnr on 30th.
Right now, the Labour Party need to see the strength of feeling on this so they're under no illusions as to what they need to do and clarify ahead of the GE.