Boycott New Zealand

[Clymene]

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

OK so those of us who want to boycott I suggest we stop buying and NZ products from the big companies and instead spend the money at Māori businesses?

It won't be like for like, I don't think a small dairy in rural NZ can realistically post a block of butter tot he UK but maybe jewelry or art?

Or if grass roots groups / charities can be put on the list then a donation.

Does that wound like a plan?

By all means, support your farmers in the UK. NZ and Australia have trade deals with most Asian regions, where we are geographically located and diverted years ago from European/UK trade.

OK so those of us who want to boycott I suggest we stop buying and NZ products from the big companies and instead spend the money at Māori businesses?

I think this is a good plan. Like my Dad said, farmers are fine, they do well in a place like that. We don’t need to worry about a boycott against farmers. I think regardless of this, supporting local produce is always better, and other products outside that if you want something truly kiwi then an indigenous company is better too. So regardless, a reevaluation of purchasing from NZ or any foreign country is a positive step to make.

Great so no one minds what we do. Boycott away.

Going by posts many over there seem ok with violence against women.

'British wine' isn't British, it is cheap wine imported from anywhere and bottled here.

English wine is from the UK, this is one near me https://shop.halfpennygreen.co.uk/

Nothing wrong with a Malbec from Argentina.

I had sketchy plans to visit NZ, they've obviously changed. Not so much that I'd feel unsafe there but I feel I'd be side eyeing all the locals, were you there? did you punch a woman? did you cheer them on? do you think she was asking for it? I rarely drink, much less drink wine. Wool makes me itch. Prefer beef to lamb. I'd rather support local farmer than buy stuff that's travelled halfway round the planet anyway.

It seems NZ won't miss me or my money anyway, so there should be no hard feelings from the Kiwis.

@Whaeanui once again thank you for your interesting posts. At a risk of another derail, I'm curious why there seems to be only one Maori language. Even welsh has at least three distinct dialects. I'd have thought, with the mountains and two big islands, the Maori language(s) should be more diverse. Please ignore this post if you wish.

My daughter was living and working in Wellington for a while. She says that there was frequently total unavailability at times, sometimes for months on end of certain products- such as trainers........Waiting for the next shipment to come in.

She also suggests that Wellington is far more woke and 'up itself' even than Melbourne.

To all those from New Zealand calling the UK colonisers, unless you are Maori the term also applies to you.
And in case you have forgetten Roviel Detenamo was denied a place at the Olympics because of a white male.

I genuinely don't understand posts like yours. You seem to be one of the percentage of the right wing population thinking "woke" is a dirty word.

Woke means accepting we live in diverse societies and want/demand social services from the government for the taxes we pay. Being "woke" is demanding better pay for nurses, teachers and the NHS instead of governments giving money to their billionaires friends that help them win elections with a press they own anyway.

Being woke is accepting that our societies have changed and we need to adapt because, in the UK case, English imperialism disappeared long ago.

Woke is the dirty word the right wing of politics in the USA and UK have spread, thanks to publications like the Daily Mail, but only mean policies that are socially progressive. Policies that have been implemented for decades in Europe as social democracy and created the essential safety nets for people not being bankrupted for a serious medical issue as an example.

The push to rubbish those social policies is strengthening in the UK and USA to move further to the right.

We are free thinkers and will make up our own mind... and that mind resoundedly told Posey Parker to take her transphobic ideas and go home.

You say you are free thinkers and at the same time you make it sound like group think. Do you all think the same?
Your collective mind didn’t want to hear what KJK and her supporters had to say. So no critical views allowed. Hmmm…
(and by the way I’m not British, so no colonial guilt here)

We are free thinkers and will make up our own mind... and that mind resoundedly told Posey Parker to take her transphobic ideas and go home.

The resoundingly part is 70 year olds being punched repeatedly in the face yes?

That’s what you’re proud of, the male violence against women. Sounds great.

Two memorable, and excellent - albeit one is very graphic and violent, the other inspiring and heart-warming - New Zealand films I've seen, both of which deal with male violence and with the primacy of males are:

'Once Were Warriors' ( telles the tale of a maori family beset by addiction and male violence - not for the faint hearted)

'Whale Rider' ( the story of a young Maori girl who seeks to ascend to the role of chieftan when her grandfather dies - a role usually only permissable to males

@SinnerBoy
Please don't stop buying Anchor butter, it is now made in the UK using milk from British farmers.

I'm actually a now ex member of the Labour party and one time left wing activist. So much for imagined stereotypes.

Wokeism is a direct U.S import ( U.S cultural colonialism in action for you) based on three theories: 'Intersectionalism' and its hierarchy of oppressions and privileges; Queer theory - especially in its guise of gender identity theory; and Critical Race Theory.

'Woke' is actually a very handy short hand term which is more than applicable. Wokesters are invested in student politics; ever so predictable - and have nothing to to do with the traditional left at all.

Good point.

What is causing a surge to the right is actually the extreme wokeism of the sort that that you are preaching and defending. Referring to everytrhing as 'ultra right' or to people as 'Nazis' and 'bigots' when they simply disagree - was bound to create the sort of back-lash which is now inevitable. You reap what you sow. Take some responsibility.

If the ‘woke’ group think it’s ok for men to punch 70 year old women it’s no surprise people might view them differently.

Alondra said:
"Woke is the dirty word the right wing of politics in the USA and UK have spread, thanks to publications like the Daily Mail, but only mean policies that are socially progressive."

Actually, "woke", as used by most people who use the term (hardly any "woke" left-wingers actually use it) is an ironic description of the excesses of left-wing identity politics, particularly in regard to wholly irrational creeds like transgender ideology, which breaks the most basic rules that usually apply to identity politics (e.g.., don't seek to colonise and thereby cancel another group's identity - as in "TWAW", and don't impose identities on others - such as "cisgender"- that are meaningless to them).

You'll find these days that criticism of wokery is just as likely to come from the critical left, and from non-aligned rational humanists (like Dawkins) as it is from the right.

So much hatred and bigotry all in one thread. None of this has anything to do with New Zealand, and everything to do with the posters spewing bile.

Please don't presume to know what the women - or men - of Aotearoa think or believe. We are not one homogeneous lump.

There is so much hatred in the world already. Let's take a step back and let people make up their own minds about what they think, feel and believe.

Forcing strong opinions on others will never end well. Let's try to be a little more respectful of others, and engage in more mature conversation.

Oops, that "good point" was to @sashh . ..you are of course right.
In my mind what happened in Auckland is a small piece of a wider, devastating and pervasive problem in NZ of male violence against women.
I really dont believe boycotting NZ products will change that. Unfortunately.

I'm not surging to the right, I was stood to the left of the centre when the "gender progressives" got up and migrated so far down the spectrum that the Marxists feel displaced.

Once Were Warriors is a graphic depiction of the mess that is colonisation, a mess that New Zealand is still grappling with.

KJK on Fox News, bigging up Elon Musk makes me want to vom.

Violence at rallies is clearly disgraceful but backing anyone who courts right-wing press is not OK to me, either.

There's an emerging air of Katie Hopkins about Kelly and it does not sit right.

Ha at this.

They lost me with words and now male violence is still the same hatred against women, in a dress or not.

They’re disappeared down some hell scape where violence against women is fluffy bunny time and that’ll be a no thanks from me. They can’t even see the punches.