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Shocking scenes in Auckland, TRA pours liquid on KJK

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JacquelinePot · 25/03/2023 09:59

I'm not even sure what to say about this, I just find it really shocking.

Baying mobs surrounded the intended event, one got onto the podium and poured red liquid all over KJK and KJK had to be removed amidst a huge crush.

I hope everyone is OK.

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MerlinsLostMarbles · 27/03/2023 00:13

Have you seen JK Rowling's latest tweet?

It's the misleading cropped image from KJK's Auckland event that appears to show an object held at her and a hand around her neck.

This is misinformation spread out to a very large number of people (about 14 million). The silver object is her own phone (held sideways to the camera) and the hand belongs to one of her security. Images from other angles from her live feed video confirm this.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 00:15

MerlinsLostMarbles · 27/03/2023 00:13

Have you seen JK Rowling's latest tweet?

It's the misleading cropped image from KJK's Auckland event that appears to show an object held at her and a hand around her neck.

This is misinformation spread out to a very large number of people (about 14 million). The silver object is her own phone (held sideways to the camera) and the hand belongs to one of her security. Images from other angles from her live feed video confirm this.

So you've tweeted her to let her know then?

MerlinsLostMarbles · 27/03/2023 00:18

Others have. Whether she will see them and take note I don't know.

ElonsMusky · 27/03/2023 00:25

Clymene · 26/03/2023 23:10

@Feministwoman Ruth Serwotka of WPUK amplified Billy Bragg's gross tweet to her followers (obviously her account is locked) and said there were legitimate concerns about KJK.

WPUK are so up their own arses that they can't bring themselves to condemn a woman they don't like being assaulted.

As far as I'm concerned, they aren't concerned about women's rights at all or only inasmuch as they don't conflict with their pet men.

They would stand by and watch KJK get trampled to death and say she deserved it because she didn't toe the party line. They're not feminists. They're women who will always put their party politics before women. And women who do that never put women first.

never been a huge fan of Billy, but that cartoon perfectly sums KJKPP BunchaNamesSoftLightFilter perfectly.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 00:31
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yourhairiswinterfire · 27/03/2023 00:32

This is misinformation spread out to a very large number of people (about 14 million

Hopefully she'll remove it if she reads the responses then.

You're right that it's better that we stick to the facts, such as the actual video evidence showing just how violent and unhinged those 'trans rights' activist were, pummeling a defenceless 70 year old woman. Which 14million people will now see.

Mmmnotsure · 27/03/2023 00:34

Andrew Doyle: "We are told that women’s rights is a Trojan horse for fascism… Surely the Trojan horse metaphor would work much better for individuals who claim to be compassionate and on the right side of history but routinely send threats of death and rape to anyone who challenges their world view. Gender identity ideology is often presented as sweet and cuddly, with glitter, and rainbow flags and Be Kind hashtags. But like the Trojan horse, there are plenty of angry men inside waiting to commit bloody carnage."

DemiColon · 27/03/2023 00:51

Baldieheid · 25/03/2023 18:31

Jazz breaks my heart. I'm not even sure if Jazz is 20 yet and the health issues are already causing major issues, mentally and physically. The future for Jazz does not look rosy.

And after all that, Jazz is:

Still male.

Still unhappy.

Still deeply let down by the parents, the medical profession and the money given to them by TLC to be led down the garden path instead of supported to be a little gay boy.

Why gay? Jazz was a pre-schooler when it all started, and it was the parents that were in the driving seat. There's no reason to think he'd be a gay man.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 27/03/2023 01:47

https://twitter.com/speakoutsister/status/1640011347252445184

JK Rowling has now deleted one of her other tweets which appear to show a man being aggressive towards a woman, after it has emerged the man was part of KJK's security team.

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That's a pretty mixed up explanation WRT Jazz, and also in terms of anthropology and biology.

OneMorePlant · 27/03/2023 02:16

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Oh hello Elonsmusky. We are all still waiting for that trans science you promised us now a while ago in another thread. Where is it?

yourhairiswinterfire · 27/03/2023 02:17

Pretending the people you hate aren't "real" makes it easier and more palatable to spread hate about them

Men who dehumanise women they disagree with, men who have convinced themselves that the women they don't like aren't real people, use that warped, woman-hating attitude to justify battering 70 year women, don't they, Mr Elons 'terf this, terf that, she should have been assaulted with a brick' Musky?

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 02:20

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says the person advocating for a brick to be thrown at KJK instead of soup whilst calling her a Nazi.

Your words are meaningless noise at this point.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 02:22

MerlinsLostMarbles · 27/03/2023 01:47

https://twitter.com/speakoutsister/status/1640011347252445184

JK Rowling has now deleted one of her other tweets which appear to show a man being aggressive towards a woman, after it has emerged the man was part of KJK's security team.

👍. Thanks for letting us know. Presuming this is the tweet you said was wrong?

MerlinsLostMarbles · 27/03/2023 02:23

No, a different one.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 02:26

She's not having a good tweet day then!

PorcelinaV · 27/03/2023 02:53

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There may always have been gender nonconformity to whatever degree. It's possible that gender dysphoria may go back way into the past also.

None of this shows that males are really women, and anthropologists and biologists aren't claiming such a thing. (Or if they do, it's a personal opinion and not something they are an expert on.)

And there is no big deal in denying someone's ideology about themselves. If you deny that a Christian is really "born again" and in a "personal relationship with Jesus", it doesn't mean you hate them. I guess you could do, but there isn't much of a link.

You aren't, "denying the Christian's existence". Or that would be an overblown way to put it. You just disagree with them. No big deal.

Now if the Christian wanted special rights because of how they see themselves, yeah, maybe people could get a little annoyed about it.

PorcelinaV · 27/03/2023 03:23

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 02:20

says the person advocating for a brick to be thrown at KJK instead of soup whilst calling her a Nazi.

Your words are meaningless noise at this point.

Yep, this poster was using a demonisation label and suggesting that serious violence against a person wouldn't matter.

They can't really be giving lessons on, "not spreading hate", without being a massive hypocrite.

But anyway, no one is "pretending" here when they deny that TWAW. That's just the straightforward common sense viewpoint! We all know which side includes members that have to "pretend" they really believe this stuff when they actually don't.

user1477391263 · 27/03/2023 03:40

DemiColon · 27/03/2023 00:51

Why gay? Jazz was a pre-schooler when it all started, and it was the parents that were in the driving seat. There's no reason to think he'd be a gay man.

I am pretty sure that J is sexually attracted to males and has attempted to date men or talked about it.

ElonsMusky · 27/03/2023 05:20

yourhairiswinterfire · 27/03/2023 02:17

Pretending the people you hate aren't "real" makes it easier and more palatable to spread hate about them

Men who dehumanise women they disagree with, men who have convinced themselves that the women they don't like aren't real people, use that warped, woman-hating attitude to justify battering 70 year women, don't they, Mr Elons 'terf this, terf that, she should have been assaulted with a brick' Musky?

yawn

ResisterRex · 27/03/2023 07:31

FiLiA Twitter has been active. Silent on KJK from what I can see, unless liking Reem Alsalem's tweet counts?

Signalbox · 27/03/2023 07:45

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 26/03/2023 23:07

It’s a FB group where self identified feminists say nasty things about KJK & Mumsnetters.

It’s called ‘Actual Gender Critical Left’.

Crumbs I was oblivious to this. Weird. Is it new?

Signalbox · 27/03/2023 07:51

DemiColon · 27/03/2023 00:51

Why gay? Jazz was a pre-schooler when it all started, and it was the parents that were in the driving seat. There's no reason to think he'd be a gay man.

Isn’t gender non conformity in young children a strong indicator that a person will grow up to be gay?

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