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Shocking scenes in Auckland, TRA pours liquid on KJK

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JacquelinePot · 25/03/2023 09:59

I'm not even sure what to say about this, I just find it really shocking.

Baying mobs surrounded the intended event, one got onto the podium and poured red liquid all over KJK and KJK had to be removed amidst a huge crush.

I hope everyone is OK.

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RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 21:03

Has anyone got a link to that tweet

people keep saying that she was blaming left women for what happened in New zealand and thats not what I read

cant work out if its me of them….i think its them 🤔

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 21:03

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/03/2023 21:01

It was a very bizarre thing to Tweet. Maybe she had a knock to the head.

This is a spectacularly callous comment Sappho.

Very

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:05

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/03/2023 21:01

It was a very bizarre thing to Tweet. Maybe she had a knock to the head.

This is a spectacularly callous comment Sappho.

God yes, reading it back that wasn't a good thing to post. Apologies Sad

FOJN · 25/03/2023 21:07

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:00

I saw KJK’s tweet from the airport and have no idea why she was blaming “spiteful and jealous” women in the U.K. for what happened in Australia and New Zealand? I don’t think anyone has that sort of reach or influence to mastermind how events are going to unfold that involved thousands of people half a world away. I can only think KJK must have been in shock and not thinking clearly

It was a very bizarre thing to Tweet. Maybe she had a knock to the head.

There is also a war happening in Ukraine, it was probably that small group of feminists in Brighton that sparked that off too.

Seriously? That is deeply unpleasant. In AIBU they would describe you as a goady fucker.

Now is not the time for YOU to play the victim.

DialSquare · 25/03/2023 21:08

Attention everyone - do not buy anything from the adulthumanfemale.store or you could make the same mistake I did.

And do not donate either. I said DO NOT DONATE. My finger keeps slipping every time I look at her page and I've accidentally donated a fortune so far. Just going back to check if my finger is safe.

LittleFingerStrength · 25/03/2023 21:09

Rainonthehorizon · 25/03/2023 21:01

OMG.

Do you mean the money I just paid for one of her t-shirts, isn't going to support endangered orangutans in the rain forest?

Attention everyone - do not buy anything from the adulthumanfemale.store or you could make the same mistake I did.

Can we all get our money back because Mrs Hinch isn't a charity and she earns an income from a fabric conditioner colab?

Will you arrange a counter protest next time Hinch sets up a meet and greet signing for her 'Hinch farm' book, that will teach her and those interested in cleaning? How dare they talk about cleaning, it's cruel to discuss it, what about people who don't like cleaning, it offends non cleaning people it must be stopped! There are structures and oppriation is going on, stop dirty shaming by meeting.

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:11

Seriously @FOJN my friends have been directly accused by KJK and by posters on this thread of inciting the violence towards KJK.

It is not playing the victim to say hold on a minute that's fucking ridiculous.

Soubriquet · 25/03/2023 21:13

Rainonthehorizon · 25/03/2023 21:01

OMG.

Do you mean the money I just paid for one of her t-shirts, isn't going to support endangered orangutans in the rain forest?

Attention everyone - do not buy anything from the adulthumanfemale.store or you could make the same mistake I did.

Shit! My finger slipped! That money was meant for the orangutans Angry

yourhairiswinterfire · 25/03/2023 21:13

CarryMeOut · 25/03/2023 20:25

KJK obviously. Paying money to SFW is giving money to KJK. It is not a charity but a private organisation owned solely by KJK.

Woah! Huge, if true.

Wineat5isfine · 25/03/2023 21:13

What the hell am I reading here? People STILL defending these Autogynephiles who get off on invading women’s spaces, for their own sexual kicks?

Prosecuted rapists and paedophiles identifying as women, so they can be housed in women’s prisons, to continue their onslaught of women.

How anyone can defend the actions in schools at present, where children are being educated about breast binding, the pleasure of anal sex, gender dysphoria and that it’s “ok to identify as the opposite sex” is fucking appalling and abuse at its finest.

Our children are NOT safe. It is not normal for prepubescent or even teenage children to be identifying as anything other than who they were born as.

Teenage anguish is hideous - we’ve all been there. But we got through it without the need to permanently damage our bodies with hormones / blockers / other meds that will have a long lasting impact on our health!

Take a look at the detransitioning stories on YouTube. Teenagers now suffering from male pattern boldness as a side effect of these drugs. Brain development issues. Bone mineral density problems. Increased risk of various cancers. Increases risk of heart disease.

chemical castration - this can lead to heart disease, osteoporosis, issues with being able to metabolise fats and sugar. anemia and huge risks of depression.

All of the above are just some of the issues that KJK is trying to highlight and educate people on!!!l

KJK is NOT anti trans. She is pro women and wants female only spaces and women’s rights to be protected and respected. She wants our children to be safe.

Anyone that has a problem with this, is truly fucked up.

Jonei · 25/03/2023 21:16

PP is such a brave strong woman.

FOJN · 25/03/2023 21:18

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:11

Seriously @FOJN my friends have been directly accused by KJK and by posters on this thread of inciting the violence towards KJK.

It is not playing the victim to say hold on a minute that's fucking ridiculous.

If you tell lies about someone to smear them as a Nazi/fascist and other people add to those lies which are then used by violent men to justify violence then do not be surprised if people tell you it would have been better if you had not lied.

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 21:20

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 21:00

She was obviously an unarmed woman carrying only an aborigine flag and of no threat- but for the act of walking up to the stage area (there was no cordon), she was assaulted.

  • they had no idea if she was armed or not, Posie has received credible threats
  • she was not walking, she was running and shouting
  • she was not assaulted, security had to stop her, she continued to try and get to Posie so they had to move her away. There was no need for her to squirm around on the ground at all.

I have watched the footage from many angles and read the witness reports.

No, it is obvious from her tight fitting clothing that she was completely unarmed and she was holding the flag with both hands in plain sight. You are wrong to claim they couldn’t have known if she was unarmed. Lidia Thorpe is also a senator and her identity well known, I don’t think you can seriously claim that any competent local security firm would be mistaking her for a potential violent male assassin…

No, she wasn’t running or shouting. You may have been watching some of the sped up clips instead of the footage at normal speed. She was striding confidently and saying “you’re not welcome here” in barely enough volume to be caught. Definitely not shouting or running.

Yes, she was assaulted. Security blocked her with an arm doing a clothesline to the midsection movement. She looked down, he then stepped behind her, put two hands on her shoulders and pulled her over backwards. Meanwhile a female security guard in pink grabbed her right arm and pulled Lidia diagonally towards her, unbalancing her as well. She didn’t squirm on the ground anymore than anyone who has just had the breath knocked out of them, and I don’t blame her at all for refusing the hand of the guard that knocked her over and deciding to crawl to safety before getting up.

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:24

If you tell lies about someone to smear them as a Nazi/fascist and other people add to those lies which are then used by violent men to justify violence then do not be surprised if people tell you it would have been better if you had not lied.

You are blaming women for male violence. On a feminist forum. Have a word with yourself.

And nobody told lies, they questioned the campaign tactics of aligning with the far right.

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 21:27

You are blaming women for male violence

Nope. You can do this as many times as you like. Nobody has done that. They lied. Their lies contributed to the demonisation of Posie and this had a real impact on her life. This is what they’re being held responsible for.

Hepwo · 25/03/2023 21:31

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:11

Seriously @FOJN my friends have been directly accused by KJK and by posters on this thread of inciting the violence towards KJK.

It is not playing the victim to say hold on a minute that's fucking ridiculous.

Your friends are ridiculous.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 25/03/2023 21:32

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:24

If you tell lies about someone to smear them as a Nazi/fascist and other people add to those lies which are then used by violent men to justify violence then do not be surprised if people tell you it would have been better if you had not lied.

You are blaming women for male violence. On a feminist forum. Have a word with yourself.

And nobody told lies, they questioned the campaign tactics of aligning with the far right.

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You and your mates are the ones who ‘aligned’ Standing for Women and Let Women Speak with ‘The Far Right’.

Did you know you’ve made almost 500
posts about KJK on Mumsnet?

FOJN · 25/03/2023 21:34

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:24

If you tell lies about someone to smear them as a Nazi/fascist and other people add to those lies which are then used by violent men to justify violence then do not be surprised if people tell you it would have been better if you had not lied.

You are blaming women for male violence. On a feminist forum. Have a word with yourself.

And nobody told lies, they questioned the campaign tactics of aligning with the far right.

Pointing out that the lies real feminists told to smear KJK is not blaming them for male violence, it's highlighting the part they played in manufacturing the narrative which provided the justification for violence. Your lies were propaganda and we all know how dangerous that can be.

And no there were lies, such as KJK invited HoO to the Brighton LWS event.

If you are feeling unjustly criticised then imagine how KJK has felt for however long it is that AGCL have obsessively scrutinised her every move and found her wanting.

As someone said earlier, saying nothing was always an option and would have been a far move effective way of distancing yourselves.

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 21:35

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 21:27

You are blaming women for male violence

Nope. You can do this as many times as you like. Nobody has done that. They lied. Their lies contributed to the demonisation of Posie and this had a real impact on her life. This is what they’re being held responsible for.

But..
You have been blaming women half a world away in the U.K. for the tomato soup assault on KJK by a random, unknown NZ woman in a pink dress. Do you know KJK’s attacker personally? How can you possibly know for a fact that criticisms of KJKs tactics by U.K. women had anything to do with an assault in New Zealand?

And in our discussion above you have literally just victim blamed Lidia Thorpe for her own physical assault which saw her manhandled and pulled to the ground.

How can you say nobody has done that, when not two posts above you did it?

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 21:38

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 21:35

But..
You have been blaming women half a world away in the U.K. for the tomato soup assault on KJK by a random, unknown NZ woman in a pink dress. Do you know KJK’s attacker personally? How can you possibly know for a fact that criticisms of KJKs tactics by U.K. women had anything to do with an assault in New Zealand?

And in our discussion above you have literally just victim blamed Lidia Thorpe for her own physical assault which saw her manhandled and pulled to the ground.

How can you say nobody has done that, when not two posts above you did it?

Can you link to kjks tweet please

id really like to look at it again and youve obviously read it thoroughly

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 25/03/2023 21:38

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 21:35

But..
You have been blaming women half a world away in the U.K. for the tomato soup assault on KJK by a random, unknown NZ woman in a pink dress. Do you know KJK’s attacker personally? How can you possibly know for a fact that criticisms of KJKs tactics by U.K. women had anything to do with an assault in New Zealand?

And in our discussion above you have literally just victim blamed Lidia Thorpe for her own physical assault which saw her manhandled and pulled to the ground.

How can you say nobody has done that, when not two posts above you did it?

You’re making a bunch of extra, made up leaps in order fit @Whaeanui’s words to your own narrative.

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 21:39

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:24

If you tell lies about someone to smear them as a Nazi/fascist and other people add to those lies which are then used by violent men to justify violence then do not be surprised if people tell you it would have been better if you had not lied.

You are blaming women for male violence. On a feminist forum. Have a word with yourself.

And nobody told lies, they questioned the campaign tactics of aligning with the far right.

I’m a bit shocked. I thought this was a feminist forum. I was appalled at the violence that KJK has faced on her tour and now I’m being told that every woman that has been assaulted by a man or a woman- is 100% the fault of the victim herself or women half a world away. This is really quite bizzarre.

SapphosRock · 25/03/2023 21:40

As someone said earlier, saying nothing was always an option and would have been a far move effective way of distancing yourselves.

So women should not be allowed to speak? Ironic.

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2023 21:40

CarryMeOut · 25/03/2023 20:25

KJK obviously. Paying money to SFW is giving money to KJK. It is not a charity but a private organisation owned solely by KJK.

Just in case you are unaware that this crops up daily. Most on here don't give a flying fuck what she spends the money on that they donate. Caviar, fine wine and five star hotel rooms and first class flights if she's got any sense after the day she had yesterday.

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 21:41

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 21:38

Can you link to kjks tweet please

id really like to look at it again and youve obviously read it thoroughly

Sorry, but I’ve been reading the thread to catch up and have seen that it’s been posted several times and deleted by MNHQ. I’m new here and don’t want to go against MNHQ. Perhaps you could go to Twitter? She posted it from the airport and clearly was very shaken up.

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