Starmer: “Gender recognition will not be one of the priorities of the incoming government.”

[Rainbowshit]

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-says-snp-lurched-29479637?utm_source=app

He also appeared to aim a dig at MSPs who passed the legislation: “What’s happened in Scotland is a reminder that if you want change, you have to carry the public with you.”
He also said: “Gender recognition will not be one of the priorities of the incoming government.”

Interesting. Are they finally beginning to read the room...?

It's a promising start. He's lining up his ducks behind electorally popular promises but the Labour Party needs to engage with women to allow GCs full participation in the party.

So you're prepared to enable the reelection of Rees - Mogg?

Starmer: “Gender recognition will not be one of the priorities of the incoming government.”

And if you believe that then you are an idiot.

I think a potential Labour government will have more pressing issues to address.

If that's what he meant I agree with him.

Unfortunately, women's rights comes very far down the list of things most voters are interested in, let alone vote on.

Labour are looking pretty certain to win next election and they don't even feel under pressure on this subject.

Look at the SNP - they've pushed GRR onto a populace that is solidly against it. They knew they had the numbers because of independence. Labour know the same because of austerity.

I honestly don't know what it would take to get this front and centre.

Then again Nicola Sturgeon is gone. So ignore groundswell to political cost.

I’m glad. But if people say it doesn’t matter, it matters enough to take out a long standing politician.

There's a picture on twitter I've seen a few times with a caption which is something like 'if you will lie about something as fundamental as there being two sexes in humans, then why should I believe a word you say about anything else' and I think that covers it.

That was a bit unnecessary. You could just politely disagree rather than resort to a playground insult.

Agree he’s hoping it goes away. He means they don’t want to discuss it.

Also ‘incoming government’… he’s not there yet.

In their DNA? 😂

Thank you.

I think the wording "priority" is too vague - I do not agree with the reform of this legislation. Having been a very big labour supporter since this became an issue I have been thinking that I could not vote labour which is such a pity but to me this issue is so important.

The problem is I don't believe a word that anyone from the Conservative party either.
I don't think I could look at myself in the mirror if I voted for a party who wants to treat refugees so disgustingly - many of whom are woman.

There are no good choices for women's rights at the moment.

Yes, this is what he means.

He's going to have his activist base and MPs ( Alicia Kearns, Ben Bradshaw, Lisa Nandy et al) in his ear all of the time trying to force him to hold firm to the commitment to Gender Self ID; but he doesn't want to draw attention to it because he knows it could become a massive big banana skin for him in the way it was for Nicola Sturgeon - and completely derail his new government.

Thankfully we know that even on the cross bench Kemi Badenoch is going to be scrutinising the Labour party an this at every turn on this issue. Hopefully she will keep the Women and Equalities brief.

In the meantime we all need to keep our shoulders to the wheel in holding our local MPs accountable - and keep going in exactly the same way we have been thus far. A few more court cases; more revelations; more public exposure to the consequnces of the ideology in practice, and so on.

Yes this is what he means

No one can say whether your interpretation is correct, or whether mine is.

I would suggest, from many of his past statements, this is exactly how Starmer likes it.

It is open to be interpreted however anyone wishes to and if anyone pushes, they will receive another non-answer. He is a lawyer and a politician. There is a reason he is in the position leading the Labour Party, and I would suggest this is very much one of those reasons - the 'handling' of media and people's perceptions.

It’s not like he hasn’t had time to clarify.

Such a weakling. I don’t know how people can take to him.

Starmer's not going to be interested in gender recognition with all the other shit he needs to sort out. He'll be trying to get it off the table without being screamed at for being transphobic

I don't much care whether he clarifies it. If the end result is that any incoming Labour government prioritises other issues that I personally consider more important, I'm fine with that.

It doesn't matter if it's his priority, if there are true believers in his Government they can cause an awful lot of damage. Just look at what they've achieved already. A few activists in key posts, a bit of horse trading to get other stuff done. No, I want a unequivocal statement.

Can't stand the man. Don't believe a word that falls out of his mouth.

Must admit, it's made me smile to see the TRA lobby at the wrong end of an 'After the revolution, love' argument. Welcome to our world.

As far as the message goes, I'm listening but I'm not settling for it. I do understand that people, and particularly politicians, need room to manoeuvre, but they can do better than this.

Gender recognition reform is a priority for the sitting, been in power for 24 years, Labour devolved government in Wales.

So, using Starmer’s own line of argument about the SNP, UK/England Labour will be “lurching to the right” compared to its more “progressive” brethren in Wales, will it?

The important point in that article is that Starmer commits to devolving more powers to the Scottish Government and to the Welsh Government.

They both want the power to introduce self ID.

Starmer will give them that power and then leave them to “carry the public with them”. Just as Labour made every effort to do when it introduced the 2005 GRA…. (Sarcasm alert, in case it’s not obvious.)

Good point.