Kitchen Aid and Dylan Mulvaney

[StoneWallandRoses]

Tweets to KitchenAidUSA are very critical. Did any of you know this - I ask because Kitchen Aid in general is popular among Mumsnetters.

I'm a long time lurker and this is my first post on this board.
I'm pretty upset.

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What. The. Actual. Fuck?!!

They obviously couldn't afford Nigella. A woman who cooks ans actually uses her Kitchen Aid, and is very attractive. Do they not realise that millennials have less buying power than us?

I had always longed for the big artisan mixer. No more.

The only possible point of this add I can see would be if it were intended as a comedic, kitsch and tongue-in-cheek joke - but then wouldn’t that be homophobic or transphobic?

This is not good for either women or transwomen.

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I could only afford a Kenwood (and it's brilliant) but I'm totally the type of idiot who wants it to look pretty too. But yes obviously they can fuck off.

And he couldn't even find a hibiscus coloured jacket to match.

Oh, not fucking Olay! Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

Alternatives, please?

Total virtue signalling offensive bollocks though that is they will take my pistachio Kitchen Aid Artisan out from my cold dead hands.

Why does everyone hate Dylan so much? I’ve watched many of her videos and I actually think she’s quite sweet. Don’t get me wrong she’s clearly got some real difficulties and is far too fragile to be posting her life online but she’s not saying anything political about women in sport or prisons (that I have ever seen). She just seems like the Paris Hilton of trans social media people.

I have a sage mixer which is really good and has a timer which kitchen aid doesn’t seem to have. I was considering getting one for the colours but due to mulvaney and actually realising they aren’t as high spec as my own machine, I’m sticking with sage

I don’t hate Dylan. I just think Dylan’s offensively reductive modelling of “girlhood” is horrible.

And I am troubled by the amount of praise and attention lavished upon Dylan’s behaviour. I think it’s one of many things that feeds into culture hostile to women and girls.

All in all, yep it puts me off KitchenAid for sure, and I’m a customer of theirs. (NB the kettle’s a bit shit and the hand mixer broke as soon as it was out of warranty. I replaced both because I’m a sucker but I won’t be tempted by the big mixer now.)

Yeah, I don't hate many people and some US actor is unlikely to merit 'hate'. I think Dylan is just a product of an infuriating situation/system.

‘I don’t hate Dylan. I just think Dylan’s offensively reductive modelling of “girlhood” is horrible’

I completely get this. But many women behave the same way.
I suppose I feel sympathy for what I see as a struggling person desperately trying to gain approval in the wrong places.

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Well that's (yet) another reason to not replace my 15 year old Kitchen Aid with another KA.

My current list of reasons is:

Not made like they used to be - I bought mine because I wanted it to last a lifetime and it could be fixed. This used to be the case apparently but it changed back in the 2010s when they switched motor manufacturers. My motor started clicking and the head started lifting at the sight of dough after a couple of years of use.

-The quality of the materials is mixed, some are high quality but where it counts, like where it comes into contact with food, it's not.

-The a bit where the attachments hook onto the mixer is made of a soft steel or something, I constantly have a black residue on my hands after switching attachments, or cleaning up under the attachment hood. The paddle attachment is made of enamelled metal that can chip off.

-Kitchen Aid Mixes in the USA have a Californian warning saying they contain LEAD and can cause cancer.

-Not easy to fix. My Kitchen Aid starts by itself it has done so for years it's dangerous but it's such an expensive machine, I can't afford to replace it. The internal switch is broken, I took it to our local small appliance repairer who has always looked after our Magimixer etc. They said they weren't allowed to repair it, we had to contact Kitchen Aid directly ourselves. Guess what? I did, after two weeks of hearing nothing they email back saying 'sorry we are busy, our sale has been busier than expected. Please call us.' It's out of warranty and their solution is to give me a discount to buy another. Much like Dyson, my other love/hate brand.

-I am saving up for an Ankarsrum which is more expensive but is better for dough.

-In the mean time I am happy using electric handbeaters to make cakes and whip things. Anything but another beastly, over priced, piece of junk that is KA.

-I will be frank, I have come to the cynical opinion that Kitchen Aid is a brand for people who want to look good in pictures making food, not for people who care about actually making good food. Sorry for being snarky,

@Climbles well, one of various differences between Dylan’s impact and the impact of women behaving “the same way” (bearing in mind that “the same” is very vague) is that for those many other women, it doesn’t tend to mean they get given a huge platform and lavished with praise, invited to the White House to meet the President and discuss their activism, etc.

So it’s not really “the same”

I will second Dualit. I bought our first Dualit four years ago and it's still going strong. This was after one kettle that lasted fifteen years, then two that lasted around a year each. None were 'well priced'.

I don’t hate Dylan. I don’t hate any trans or NB person.

I just don’t think they should be put over the actual sex first.

So a transwoman shouldn’t be representing tampons! Menstruation is purely a woman’s thing. Why does a man need to represent it?

And it’s always Transwomen being put over women. It’s never trans men being put over men.

It’s pure misogyny

I completely get this. But many women behave the same way. I suppose I feel sympathy for what I see as a struggling person desperately trying to gain approval in the wrong places.

How many adult human females do you know who play with Barbie dolls?
How many adult human females do you know who describe their vagina as a Barbie pouch/pocket?
How many adult human females do you know who go hiking in heels?
How many adult human females do you know who think that tampons comes in sizes to fit your Barbie pouch/pocket?

It's offensive as fuck.

@chardonnay79 those Ankarsrum mixers look amazing!

He calls it a barbie pouch? Ew

My 9 year old daughter knows better words than that

Yeah, all of this as well!

I’m not convinced that poster you’re answering is in good faith though (even though I also replied)

THIS.

The people who are saying they aren't offended by this would presumably also not be offended by a white person blacking up and wearing an afro wig and advertising a kitchen aid.

The two things are offensive for the same reason. Thankfully we've moved beyond that sort of racism as a society, but sadly not that level of misogyny.

Why do you not think it’s it good faith? Surely reporting me would be the best plan if you think I’m a troll.

I suppose I just think there are worse people out there and although misguided and at times frankly embarrassing I don’t think she’s a horrible person and feel sorry for the amount of hate she gets. I understand all your points though completely.