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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I have absolutely seen it all!

137 replies

thirdistheonewiththehairychest · 23/02/2023 14:22

www.modibodi.co.uk/products/pride-longline-short-light-moderate-hand-multi-print

OP posts:
trythisforsize · 23/02/2023 15:18

It's such weird wording 'for the days you want to wear a packer'. What clothing company says crap like that? I don't remember any bra's coming out 'for days you want to wear chicken fillets'. They'll be happy you're sharing it though OP - gets them huge publicity and sells more product. In fact - do you work for modibodi perchance?

ArabellaScott · 23/02/2023 15:19

Athlebad · 23/02/2023 15:13

What's the problem?! Why shouldn't someone who was born a woman and menstruates, but identifies as male and wants to live as that gender, be able to buy a product that accomodates that? Live and let live, it's not causing you any problem, it's just making life a bit more managable and enjoyable for others...

I agree. I really don't care if a company wants to make pugly period pants with a plastic pecker pocket. They are free to do so, and we are free to say they are pugly pants.

Igmum · 23/02/2023 15:19

Oh FFS 🤦‍♀️

Igmum · 23/02/2023 15:20

P.S. I pay for Mumsnet Premium (mainly for FWR) and get no adverts. After looking at that I am deeply grateful

Helleofabore · 23/02/2023 15:20

I think normalising the need to wear a 'packer' to women and girls is absolutely abhorrent.

it most certainly is.

Happylittlechicken · 23/02/2023 15:24

I suppose though, depending on how the pouch is made…. You could carry extra Sanpro in it…..

ArabellaScott · 23/02/2023 15:26

The pocket for your plastic pecker could also be used for petty pilfering in pret a manger.

Put a panini in your pants!

sanityplease · 23/02/2023 15:36

it's disgusting and terrifying that things have come to this

iwantmyownicecreamvan · 23/02/2023 15:36

@ArabellaScott
Thanks for the new tongue twisters. I'm going to be saying:

Pugly period pants with a plastic pecker pocket

and

My plastic pecker pocket can be used for petty pilfering

all day now 😂

Beowulfa · 23/02/2023 15:39

Selling shit to idiots is a business model that has never failed.

HairyPooter · 23/02/2023 15:40

Are they really selling it in kids sizes? With packer? If so, then that I have a problem with.

(I am not clicking on the link).

HurryShadow · 23/02/2023 15:43

knittingaddict · 23/02/2023 14:58

I can confirm. 👉

Bollocks.

Will be reviewing my "ad choices" soon I suspect!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/02/2023 15:50

HairyPooter · 23/02/2023 15:40

Are they really selling it in kids sizes? With packer? If so, then that I have a problem with.

(I am not clicking on the link).

No, I mean that there are child-sized packers. 4thwavenow.com/2015/09/26/san-francisco-company-selling-packers-for-trans-boys-ages-4-and-up/

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 23/02/2023 15:54

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/02/2023 15:50

Oh Jesus Christ. There are no words.

HairyPooter · 23/02/2023 15:54

Child sized "packers". Packers is another obfuscation. Pretend penis for young girls. That is all kinds of wrong. I despair, I really do.

Skodacool · 23/02/2023 15:56

🫣😱

FebruaryFever · 23/02/2023 15:59

There's a small market and they're catering for it. And people who like the fact that they're inclusive and catering for that market will buy from them to support them. Yes it 'normalises' periods for the young females who don't believe themselves to be women. No I don't understand the levels of cognitive dissonance required to put on period pants, bleed and yet worry about where to put my packer so that I can create the illusion of having male genitalia. It must be hellish. But the model obviously seems happy with their lot, so there you go.

I don't think there's a lot to be gained by criticising a company for cashing in. That's business for you. Just don't buy from them if you feel strongly about it. Meanwhile let's fight for proper support services and education in our schools to help young women feel good about themselves and their bodies. That's the battleground to concentrate on.

Igenix4 · 23/02/2023 16:00

A transgender creator on tiktok spoke about this

vm.tiktok.com/ZMYA6mDju/

MeanCanadianLady · 23/02/2023 16:02

I just get an annoying pop up that won't go away and then I am forced to redirect because of my IP.

I have absolutely seen it all!
BellaAmorosa · 23/02/2023 16:04

DobbyTheHouseElk · 23/02/2023 15:18

Cheeky wipes. They do good period pants and reusables.

Cheeky Wipes are just as bad from the "menstruators" and "bleeders" point of view, sadly.

nepeta · 23/02/2023 16:09

The WPATH stated in one of their earlier reports that taking testosterone means several changes and in those changes they included cessation of the menses. But it doesn't seem to happen to all who take testosterone, though earlier I read a medical article which states that menstruation ceases for more than half of testosterone-taking transitioners from the start. Those who have their uteri removed of course also stop menstruating.

The actual market size is therefore incredibly small in numbers. But there are female individuals who transition only socially, so they probably all menstruate and so do nonbinary identifying female people.

What I dislike about this is that it means 'woman' has been appropriated and no longer is based on being biologically female and adult (because the transmen and female enbies are female but refuse to be called women so none of us can be called women because we are women).

Nobody tells us what 'woman' now means, but attempts to find out answers to that question strongly suggest that it is comfort with sexist stereotypes about femininity or with retrogressive sex roles for women. This is terrible for women's rights.

Naunet · 23/02/2023 16:17

I love that they are still listed in women’s sizes - how “triggering” 🤣

KatMcBundleFace · 23/02/2023 16:17

Athlebad · 23/02/2023 15:13

What's the problem?! Why shouldn't someone who was born a woman and menstruates, but identifies as male and wants to live as that gender, be able to buy a product that accomodates that? Live and let live, it's not causing you any problem, it's just making life a bit more managable and enjoyable for others...

Yeah, but I always wonder if transmen try the Mirena Coil. I appreciate it doesn't suit everyone, but speaking as someone who's not had a period for 17 odd years due to a succession of them, suits me down to the ground.
No period would surely help with dysphoria. No banging on with nonsense like period pants for men. Or trying to change language for every female!
Just imagine.

Lolojojonesi · 23/02/2023 16:19

Athlebad · 23/02/2023 15:13

What's the problem?! Why shouldn't someone who was born a woman and menstruates, but identifies as male and wants to live as that gender, be able to buy a product that accomodates that? Live and let live, it's not causing you any problem, it's just making life a bit more managable and enjoyable for others...

Yep. I just don't get all the hate. It baffles me.

Curiouspotatoze · 23/02/2023 16:22

astounded at the energy people seem to have to complain about a product that isn’t marketed for them and literally has 0 impact on their life. Sigh.