One third of pupils kept home on "rainbow day" at Canadian school

[Rainbowshit]

Yikes.

I guess there's more disquiet about this stuff in Canada than is reported.

lfpress.com/news/local-news/rainbow-day-why-did-one-third-of-kids-at-one-london-school-stay-home

Then don't have days singling out and making a fuss about it and ramming it up people's noses.

But LGB people at this point are dealing with so much homophobia, particularly from anything going 'yay rainbow' and waving flags and lanyards, that frankly it's getting hard to figure out what we are and are not allowed to mind about.

Same! It actually really annoys me the number of places with British names, I get really confused 🤣

Many Canadians have never really faced the fact that an inclusive, "diverse" society means a pluralism of views. It's actually quite shocking when you realize that there are a lot of people on the progressive left who really seem to believe that immigrants and minorities all hold progressive political and social views. It doesn't cross their minds that they might view things differently.

I am no longer happy for schools to teach anything about more complex ethical questions. Respect for other people you interact with is as far as they should go, and that does not mean agreement, but treating people properly. As far as i am concerned they have neither the moral authority nor the expertise to say anything beyond that.

My workplace has zero inclusion days.

Same. I see no reason to give the benefit of the doubt to Canadian LGBT organisations at the moment, given the level of capture. Mind you, I'm not Muslim so probably wouldn't be so newsworthy if I kept mine off school.

There doesn’t need to be a rainbow day at all.

I'm not a Muslim, but I think I would have been one of those parents. I have absolutely no confidence at all that any activist group brought in to collaborate with these days (or material sourced from such groups) will be suitable for children. I do not want my child taught that some people are born in the wrong bodies or that someone can change sex and I have no faith that if I asked before the day, I'd be told the truth about what they plan to celebrate, exactly.

So if this happened in our school, my child would be ill on that day and also on any further days.

Aaand my post has been deleted? What exactly did I say to violate the guidelines? Cheers @mnhq for allowing bigotry towards people like me to continue

If I was LGB, I'd be fucking livid that I'd been grouped with T. It's a totally different thing.

I suspect if the day was LGB, there'd be pretty much 100% attendance.

Given how Canada has totally jumped the shark on these issues I wouldn't be surprised if the day involved external groups that would have been of concern to all parents not just those of other faiths.

And agree with a PP, there has to be religious freedom and respect for those religions even if you disagree with their beliefs. You're not going to just be able to force something on them that goes completely against their beliefs.

I live in Canada.
We have blue shirt day for autism awareness.
Orange shirt day for First Nations.
Pink shirt day for anti-bulling.
Red shirt day for Terry Fox Day.
Black History month.

The point is there are lots of different days celebrated here.

I think you'll find it's negative generalisations of homophobia against entire populations, and this one will likely be shortly deleted too as against guidelines.

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz I think that's a massive reach and unlikely.

You would be wrong. The communites that strongly object to trans issues aren't cool with gay people. signed LGB person who lives here.

I cant speak for Muslim people, but I am sick of being told that my beliefs as a Christian are bigotry. We have our beliefs and thats it. It doesn't mean we hate other people. I don't force scripture onto people so I dont see why people should try and talk me out of what I believe by saying its homophobic. Someone pulled this stunt at work recently and they didn't put themselves in a good light.
It's sad to see someone state that homophobia is in the Muslim community. Its sadly, in all communities if you search for it.

Is it a school in Canada that's suspended a child for not supporting gender ideology? I don't think he was transphobic, I think he said it was against his religious beliefs (some flavour of Christianity).

I get the idea of everyone is different with a difference story to tell, and that the rainbow symbolises that - different colours together making a beautiful whole. So I definitely get the value of having days for celebrating difference.

But…

Singling out a particular group so that they can feel “normal” what bollocks! This assumes that everyone other than this group feels “normal” and has nothing about home they feel embarrassed or ashamed of.

Here’s a list of things that can make kids feel “not normal”.

• They are they only people from a particular ethnicity in the school, their parents taste, the music they listen to is so different to anyone they know, their food, the packed lunches are all ‘weird and smelly’ to their classmates.
• Their parents are going through a messy divorce, been caught having affairs and there’s loud drama every day.
• A family member is certified with a mental illness and is in and out of mental hospital- so they need to take care of themselves a lot of the time.
• They are very poor, never have anything new, never have been on a holiday abroad.
• Their parents sent them to live with grandparents abroad for a few years and they are still reeling from it.
• They have spent most of their childhood in and out of hospital, having multiple surgeries and have pain and mobility issues, they missed out on a lot of school and feel embarrassed about how much they don’t know.

I could keep on all day with this. I am getting really fed up with this notion that embarrassment about having homosexual feelings or parents is up there with the most pressing concerns.

DS is bisexual and hates the LGBetc stuff at school. He feels it makes it a "thing", as though it's an abnormality.

He's just normal. He doesn't want to talk about his sexual preferences at school. He has no interest whatsoever in bloody rainbows.

No kink, no pick and mix labels. Show different family formations by all means. Teach acceptance. Avoid being heteronormative. Teach biology. Teach sex ed age appropriately.

Welcome to the creeping extension of transphobia to phobia for other minority groups.

Does this in any way surprise you?

It's the same thought processes and rationale. Tacit sanctioning of transphobia is emboldening those who harbour similar attitudes towards other groups and who are seeking to normalise their attitudes in society.

Not wanting your kids taught by a man wearing pretend fake ginormous breasts isn't a phobia.

Jesus wept.

What about the ageism, sexism, racism, homophobia and ableism that is constantly pointed out as an active part of trans activism? That is sought to be normalised and excused.

'You're old and you'll die soon'.
'If black women are women then men are women'.
'lesbians have to learn to cope with straight sex or they're sexual racists <insert death threat>'
'No one has the right to a faith that means not tolerating males in female spaces and should just abandon that faith (and community, and home)'
'reframe your trauma'

*Rainbowshit
It's part of an ongoing conversation about discomfort with what is being taught to our children about sex, sexuality and gender ideology.

There are numerous examples of inappropriate content and parents not being told what is being taught to their children.

What's happening is harmful in lots of ways and is not resulting in inclusion but harming LGBT acceptance.

Welcome to the creeping extension of transphobia to phobia for other minority groups.

Does this in any way surprise you?*

It's the same thought processes and rationale. Tacit sanctioning of transphobia is emboldening those who harbour similar attitudes towards other groups and who are seeking to normalise their attitudes in society.

And thank you for demonstrating part of the problem.

Not wanting children to be taught scientific untruths such as you can choose your sex is not transphobia.

Not wanting your children to roll a dice and select an orifice and a body part to insert is not homophobia.

Objecting to rainbow dildo butt monkey is not bigotry.

By smearing reasonable concerns as such you just add to the problem.

Not wanting children to be taught scientific untruths such as you can choose your sex is not transphobia.

And if it is, frankly, anyone who isn't transphobic is a public menace.