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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

One third of pupils kept home on "rainbow day" at Canadian school

280 replies

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 13:14

Yikes.

I guess there's more disquiet about this stuff in Canada than is reported.

lfpress.com/news/local-news/rainbow-day-why-did-one-third-of-kids-at-one-london-school-stay-home

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Helleofabore · 17/02/2023 15:17

I am interested to see what the day would have entailed. There is a huge difference in discussing same sex families vs giving information about sexual practices. I don’t think we need a reminder about Rainbow dildo monkey and drag queens twerking or rolling on the floor with children. Or a teacher in a Canadian secondary with the largest prosthetic beasts available.

What did the day involve?

Helleofabore · 17/02/2023 15:19

And no, I don’t trust LGBT groups to provide even adequate information and safeguarding anymore. I think we are past this.

GelPens1 · 17/02/2023 15:25

There isn’t a ‘special day’ for all the different ethnicities/races in the UK. LGBT doesn’t need a ‘special day’ in schools. Why can’t children just learn about sex in sex ed (that’s age appropriate)?

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 17/02/2023 15:27

Very strong vibes of ‘ooh aren’t all these foreign people nasty bigots’ in that article. The idea that second or third generations aren’t even considered Canadians, but ‘New’ Canadians is 😮, and the pointing out of how Canada ‘Welcomed’ tens of thousand of Syrian refugees…..

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 15:32

IWineAndDontDine · 17/02/2023 14:13

What kind of phobe are you? Or just ignorant?

A shit-ramming phobe?

Do you enjoy forced religion you don't share in being rammed down your throat?

QueenOfThorns · 17/02/2023 15:33

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 17/02/2023 15:27

Very strong vibes of ‘ooh aren’t all these foreign people nasty bigots’ in that article. The idea that second or third generations aren’t even considered Canadians, but ‘New’ Canadians is 😮, and the pointing out of how Canada ‘Welcomed’ tens of thousand of Syrian refugees…..

That’s fairly ironic considering how Canada treats its indigenous population, especially women and girls…
www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/02/canada-murders-indigenous-women

mightymam · 17/02/2023 15:34

It is inappropriate and unnecessary to have children, and by extension their parents being forced to participate in "rainbow day" - basically a day celebrating adult sexual practices - to fulfil a schools woke agenda. Absolutely no reason for schools to be adding this to their list of worthy causes - just a box-ticking exercise.

🙌🏻

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 15:35

anotheragain · 17/02/2023 14:35

Look, this is a manifestation of homophobia in Muslim communities. It’s not a brave stand for women’s rights. Muslim communities are overwhelmingly homophobic and this is a much more pervasive opinion than in the Christian churches.

Just last night as I walked home three young Muslim men were loudly talking about how they would like to blowtorch gays to death and were laughing as they acted this out.

As a supporter of the human rights of gay men and lesbians, this protest at the school is nothing to celebrate.

Please don't use my homosexuality to try and shut people up from raising problems with forced gender ideology.

None of this is in my name, I want nothing to do with it. And frankly the worst homophobia I've ever encountered has come from gender believers who do not feel I should be allowed to be homosexual and refuse sex to men who identify as lesbians, and that I should be raped and murdered for my recalcitrance and 'gatekeeping of my vagina'. Please do explain why should I embrace rape/kerb stomping and being beaten to death with baseball bats but find threats of blowtorching awful?

AngelinaFibres · 17/02/2023 15:36

IWineAndDontDine · 17/02/2023 14:15

Because, believe it or not, there will be members of the LGBT community at these schools, and we would rather they not feel like they are abnormal

But it's done precisely that hasn't it. All those children would have been at school together, getting on with their day, learning together but now they are at school and 1/3 of their classmates are being kept at home.

watchfulwishes · 17/02/2023 15:41

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 14:34

We would rather the disabled children didn’t feel abnormal as well. Nor do we want the children who are from a ethnic minority or who are looked after, or who have an unusual family set up or any other thing that makes them slightly different to the majority to feel abnormal.

Absolutely. DD had an LGTBQ+ awareness day at work the other day - I didn't say anything to her, didn't want to start an argument on our family chat - but I did want to ask if they were having a disability awareness day (far more relevant to her job I think) or a racial inclusion day...

My work has all of those inclusion days.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 17/02/2023 15:44

anotheragain · 17/02/2023 14:35

Look, this is a manifestation of homophobia in Muslim communities. It’s not a brave stand for women’s rights. Muslim communities are overwhelmingly homophobic and this is a much more pervasive opinion than in the Christian churches.

Just last night as I walked home three young Muslim men were loudly talking about how they would like to blowtorch gays to death and were laughing as they acted this out.

As a supporter of the human rights of gay men and lesbians, this protest at the school is nothing to celebrate.

Muslims are overwhelmingly homophobic are they? There’s a name for that kind of statement. Funnily enough, that word ends in phobia too.

greenspaces4peace · 17/02/2023 15:48

@Judashascomeintosomemoney yes Canadians will ask and discuss historic family history for a long long time. Where are you from is a polite conversation starter which might be answered with 1600 XYZ ship which left Normandy.

ComfortablyDazed · 17/02/2023 15:50

I don’t understand why this has been posted in the feminism - sex and gender topic?

This is about a community - or at least a not insignifiant number of it - rejecting LGB people. Not trans/gender ideology.

I’m really uncomfortable about that.

And why are people focusing on sex? Being LGB is about more than just who one has sex with, just as being hetero is about more than just who one has sex with.

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 15:53

ComfortablyDazed · 17/02/2023 15:50

I don’t understand why this has been posted in the feminism - sex and gender topic?

This is about a community - or at least a not insignifiant number of it - rejecting LGB people. Not trans/gender ideology.

I’m really uncomfortable about that.

And why are people focusing on sex? Being LGB is about more than just who one has sex with, just as being hetero is about more than just who one has sex with.

It's part of an ongoing conversation about discomfort with what is being taught to our children about sex, sexuality and gender ideology.

There are numerous examples of inappropriate content and parents not being told what is being taught to their children.

What's happening is harmful in lots of ways and is not resulting in inclusion but harming LGBT acceptance.

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 17/02/2023 15:56

There is a thread running on Sophie Labelle right now, a valid and celebrated member of the LGBTQIA+ community.

Acceptance without exception means we can't link shame a person like this.

So as a parent I'd be concerned about messages a Rainbow Day may send because more often than not they have gone waaaaaay past what they should be about - normalising different family set ups, your gay brother or lesbian aunt are the same as you just love a person of the same sex

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 17/02/2023 15:59

Doh kink shame. Kink phobic keyboard obv

Helleofabore · 17/02/2023 16:01

ComfortablyDazed · 17/02/2023 15:50

I don’t understand why this has been posted in the feminism - sex and gender topic?

This is about a community - or at least a not insignifiant number of it - rejecting LGB people. Not trans/gender ideology.

I’m really uncomfortable about that.

And why are people focusing on sex? Being LGB is about more than just who one has sex with, just as being hetero is about more than just who one has sex with.

Why do you think it is not including gender identity? Have you seen the materials for the day?

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 16:02

ComfortablyDazed · 17/02/2023 15:50

I don’t understand why this has been posted in the feminism - sex and gender topic?

This is about a community - or at least a not insignifiant number of it - rejecting LGB people. Not trans/gender ideology.

I’m really uncomfortable about that.

And why are people focusing on sex? Being LGB is about more than just who one has sex with, just as being hetero is about more than just who one has sex with.

Please do tell me how my being homosexual is about more than being exclusively same sex attracted??

I would suspect the issue people are raising is the forced teaming of homosexuality with TQ+ and the rest of the alphabet, and the interesting enforcement of gender ideology in schools.

Witchofthekitchen · 17/02/2023 16:03

That article leaves me with the impression that the local response to this seems to be ‘we just need to brainwash people harder’. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of knots people tie themselves into trying to reconcile Muslim/minority communities not wanting to engage with the rainbow propaganda vs everyone be kind to the most oppressed of the oppressed. It’s a bit of a conundrum.

Helleofabore · 17/02/2023 16:04

I must admit I was wondering what dazed meant about it being more than who you are attracted to.

WinterFoxes · 17/02/2023 16:05

Blister · 17/02/2023 14:43

These "special" days wind me up. My daughter's school started black history month. And she's been told she's a slave and her predecessors were at the back of the bus. No dear, yours are called queen amina and they led armies to battle and never saw a fecking bus. She was the kid in school and now she's the black kid in school. There's a better way of making minority kids comfortable in school than singling them out. Including lgb kids.

Brilliant post

Wanderingowl · 17/02/2023 16:12

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 15:35

Please don't use my homosexuality to try and shut people up from raising problems with forced gender ideology.

None of this is in my name, I want nothing to do with it. And frankly the worst homophobia I've ever encountered has come from gender believers who do not feel I should be allowed to be homosexual and refuse sex to men who identify as lesbians, and that I should be raped and murdered for my recalcitrance and 'gatekeeping of my vagina'. Please do explain why should I embrace rape/kerb stomping and being beaten to death with baseball bats but find threats of blowtorching awful?

But the people who have rejected this day, have likely rejected it due to the LGB, just as much if not more than the TQ+. If the implication in the article is correct, these aren't otherwise liberal parents taking a quiet conscientious objection to gender ideology. They are extremely conservative parents who reject homosexuality.

The school also recently celebrated World Hijabi Day, which I would have been just as quick to pull my DC out of as Rainbow day. They are both two sides of the same regressive coin.

Tinner01 · 17/02/2023 16:12

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AaaaaandBreathe · 17/02/2023 16:15

Well that backfired considering LGBT kids have now been forced to face the fact people would rather keep their kids at some.

Doing stuff like this isn't inclusive, it's separating them and pointing out they are 'different'.

I have a disabled child and wouldn't thank you for singling her out. Children should just be taught to accept everyone (as long as they are nice/kind - I don't mean accepting bullying behaviour, for example, obviously) in general. Other peoples lives are nothing to do with anyone else so everyone should just get on with their own business.

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 16:28

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Try re reading the thread, because I'd call that a rather radical interpretation of the text.

Why is homophobia less disgusting from one source than another?

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