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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

STURGEON IS QUITTING

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Clymene · 15/02/2023 09:59

Just seen on BBC headlines

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ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 20:05

Delphinium20 · 15/02/2023 19:48

I'm not sure about Canadian history but with the notable exception of Nixon US Presidents don't really quit do they? Even if their rating is through the floor or they've been impeached.

You are correct. Clinton was impeached but he stayed on as president.

By capitulate I meant change policy course or drop gender identity policies/executive orders/party directives. Neither have said, "we are wrong about this."

But there are limits on their terms? Sturgeon's been 1st minister for 8 years.

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 15/02/2023 20:09

TheBiologyStupid · 15/02/2023 19:50

NS's attempt to "take some of the heat out of this debate" involved calling anyone who disagreed with her as transphobic, homophobic, misogynistic and (possibly) racist. So much for "being kind and treating people with dignity"!

Yes, it only ever seems to work one way doesn't it?

Hedjwitch · 15/02/2023 20:16

Ref earlier poster. I'm in Scotland and have been for 40 years. In my circle..both work and family...there is nothing but relief that she has gone. We want to say goodbye to the bigotry,hatred and division that Sturgeon( and Salmond) brought to Scotland. By all means,campaign for independence if that's your thing, but do it professionally, with intelligent debate and backed up by facts. Scotland has become an embarrassment under the SNP and the Murrells in particular, and deserves better. Today has been a good day for many.

SidewaysOtter · 15/02/2023 20:21

LexMitior · 15/02/2023 19:34

Fuckity bye, Nicola

When a politician resigns I’m always reminded of Malcom Tucker being forced into resignation and ending up running round some bins trying to avoid the press…

Let us hope she will not be working her successor like Orville.

The duck?

I wish I could fly, right up to the sky…but I can’t…

PIKNIK20 · 15/02/2023 20:22

HIP HIP HURRAH! ten times. She jumped before she was pushed. Let us hope the gender woo woo is well and truly dead for the next candidate!

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 15/02/2023 20:23

SidewaysOtter · 15/02/2023 20:21

When a politician resigns I’m always reminded of Malcom Tucker being forced into resignation and ending up running round some bins trying to avoid the press…

Let us hope she will not be working her successor like Orville.

The duck?

I wish I could fly, right up to the sky…but I can’t…

Ah Malcolm, thanks for the memories 😂 I often wonder what he’d make of all this
trans stuff!

SidewaysOtter · 15/02/2023 20:23

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 13:25

I honestly don't understand OJ's obsession with making predictions about how history will regard the present day, like some tinpot Nostradamus. but as ever, he's reliably wrong.

He did History at uni, I think. I guess that makes sense. But for someone apparently obsessed with it, he certainly does seem to lack a grasp of the big picture.

From he who wangs on about fascism so much, you’d think someone who studied history would know what it actually is.

Here’s a tip, Owen love, it’s not having to hear an opinion you don’t like or people being told their wants don’t trump the rights of others.

SidewaysOtter · 15/02/2023 20:26

I often wonder what he’d make of all this trans stuff!

Can you imagine him being told by some HR flunky that he’s got to respect the pronouns of the work experience chap who has decided to identify as a girl named Rebecca and goes by the pronouns ze/zir? It would have been EPIC Grin

LexMitior · 15/02/2023 20:29

You just know that given the choice between Joanna Cherry and Katie Forbes that the SNP are going to do a total 360 and go for the woman with the demeanour of bar soap.

Yes! Highland purity with Katie Forbes.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 15/02/2023 20:33

SidewaysOtter · 15/02/2023 20:26

I often wonder what he’d make of all this trans stuff!

Can you imagine him being told by some HR flunky that he’s got to respect the pronouns of the work experience chap who has decided to identify as a girl named Rebecca and goes by the pronouns ze/zir? It would have been EPIC Grin

I’m making up the narrative in my head but I’d be banned for life if I typed it out 😬 oh I do miss The thick of it!

Waitwhat23 · 15/02/2023 20:45

SidewaysOtter · 15/02/2023 20:26

I often wonder what he’d make of all this trans stuff!

Can you imagine him being told by some HR flunky that he’s got to respect the pronouns of the work experience chap who has decided to identify as a girl named Rebecca and goes by the pronouns ze/zir? It would have been EPIC Grin

Can you imagine the swearing.

CryInToYourCornflakesNicola · 15/02/2023 20:51

Wiluli · 15/02/2023 14:59

It seems the only ones celebrating are ranger supporters in Glasgow , if you are like them you can join . I wouldn’t be very proud of it

WHUT are you saying about my beloved rangers now? Hmmmm

TheBiologyStupid · 15/02/2023 20:54

Bitofhelpoverhere · 15/02/2023 14:06

Firstly, trans women aren’t the threat, men are. Men are potential threats regardless of any other characteristic they have, including gender identity. That is why all men need to be kept out. If you haven’t understood that our argument is about the threat men present, you haven’t understood our position at all.

Secondly, this issue matters so much as at its heart it is about whether or not our society regards women and girls as being entitled to the most basic human rights. If women can be locked up with men, required to share bedrooms and sleeping space with men, required to get undressed in front of men ( as the young women on the beauty course with the rapist Isla were), required to discuss sexual trauma in front of men, and even more than that, are shamed and ostracized if they refuse, then women and girls are not regarded as being entitled to the most basic human rights and dignity. And if we aren’t seen as worthy of that, we can never be equal or advance our rights in society.

This debate is essentially one over the worth, and level of humanity, that women and girls are seen as having in society. That is why it is so crucial.

Very powerfully said, Bitofhelpoverhere!

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 21:08

CryInToYourCornflakesNicola · 15/02/2023 20:51

WHUT are you saying about my beloved rangers now? Hmmmm

Just a bit of casual sectarianism.

OneSugar1 · 15/02/2023 21:12

Only just seen this news!

oh dear what a pity never mind.

dinosauriam · 15/02/2023 21:54

Yippee 🍾

JanesLittleGirl · 15/02/2023 22:03

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 15/02/2023 20:23

Ah Malcolm, thanks for the memories 😂 I often wonder what he’d make of all this
trans stuff!

Fffffffffffffffffffff

ArabellaScott · 15/02/2023 22:10
ArcaneWirelessIsCopingJustFine · 15/02/2023 22:22

When you want quiet bat people but get women who won’t wheest instead …

STURGEON IS QUITTING
Notaflippinclue · 15/02/2023 22:23

Posie Parker - King maker

JanesLittleGirl · 15/02/2023 22:25

I've just watched a 15 minute eulogy to her on BBC news. Why?

LexMitior · 15/02/2023 22:26

First Honorary Trans Queen of Scotland

The only title she will ever have

RhannionKPSS · 15/02/2023 22:34

I’ve been dancing around the kitchen in my Women Won’t Wheesht top and will soon adding Women’s Rights : Destroyer of Nicola Sturgeon t shirt to my collection !!! 💚🤍💜💪Well done to all the women who have pushed back and who will continue to do so. This isn’t over yet!

TheBiologyStupid · 15/02/2023 23:07

EsmaCannonball · 15/02/2023 16:01

Maybe she planned this whole shit-show so she and her husband can go to the same prison?

😂

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