STURGEON IS QUITTING

[Clymene]

Just seen on BBC headlines

No she terrified people to make herself feel important. I live in an area with a lot of elderly people, and they haven't got their lives back since Covid and probably never will. One got on a train last week, and said she was petrified. It's genuinely sad to see. I have told them that my parents never stopped living their lives, including seeing their beloved grandchildren, and are totally fine, but they don't listen.
During the shutdown I told them to stop watching her drivel and they'd feel a lot better, but no they had to listen to the 'First Minister's speech' every day.

This is how I see it, too. The effect of caping for rapists and her inability to sex an obvious man was only significant in that it made her look ridiculous, which is much harder for a politician to ride out.

Little OJ has added the ponderous weight of his opinion...

First he tweeted that trans activists had toppled one of the most successful female leaders of all time.

then he deleted that

and wrote a panegyric of NS, finishing with the words "History will be kind to her".

I honestly don't understand OJ's obsession with making predictions about how history will regard the present day, like some tinpot Nostradamus. but as ever, he's reliably wrong.

Well, msps stood alongside trans protesters waving placards about decapitating terfs. I'd say that was evidence of trans zealotry. To
threaten the bulk of female voters is a very unpolitician-like thing to do.
The problem now facing the SNP is that they are a Parliament of amateurs, talentless.and thoughtless. They wouldn't even agree to ban sex offenders from gaining a GRA and the right to enter women's spaces. They really are unhinged on this with a few honourable exceptions.

I honestly don't understand OJ's obsession with making predictions about how history will regard the present day, like some tinpot Nostradamus. but as ever, he's reliably wrong.

He did History at uni, I think. I guess that makes sense. But for someone apparently obsessed with it, he certainly does seem to lack a grasp of the big picture.

One fake TG rapist too many - unworkable policies and trying to control everything. Good riddance!!

Adding 'tinpot Nostradamus' to my list of favourite OJ names.

Deleted. But not forgotten:

twitter.com/forthebeats1/status/1625823023130353666?s=46&t=p5YN0g6woGDssA1r36x7gQ

I'm wondering if the Greens will get their marching orders. I'm not sure whether they can be ditched but I wonder if a new FM will want rid. Not much use having a coalition if your partners have helped with the downfall of your leader

You may disagree with her but she is trying to get this difficult issue right. A teenager trans girl was murdered this week. Isn’t it time to take some of the heat and the hatred out of this debate and focus on being kind and treating people with dignity?

twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1625827316067717120?s=46&t=p5YN0g6woGDssA1r36x7gQ

"Nicola Sturgeon isn’t just the most impressive female politician in a generation - she’s the most formidable politician we’ve got.

A class act who enjoyed popular support which most leaders who’ve served that long could only dream of.

History will be kind to her."

twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1625828506889293824?s=46&t=p5YN0g6woGDssA1r36x7gQ

"Nicola Sturgeon was also on the receiving end of an unrelenting misogynistic campaign - including by those who allied with the Tories against her defence of LGBTQ rights.

Irrespective of differing views on Scottish independence, she’ll go down as a hero to LGBTQ people."

Whatever you reckon, mate.

Just putting an extra screen shot into the internet ether:

I wonder if he suddenly remembered the previous generation’s most successful female politician?

Personally, I suspect history will indeed see Nicola Sturgeon as about as Feminist as Margaret Thatcher…

Just a thought but maybe if you truly want to take the heat out of the a debate you might think twice before accusing your opponents of homophobia and racism.

ArabellaScott · Today 12:59

That twitter link - all the morons saying the question lacked class, or shouldn't have been asked need to have a word with themselves. Why shouldn't he ask her, as she appears to be involved in the illegal diversion of £600,000 worth of money donated for one cause to others?

Wouldn't it be ironic if she ended up in the same prison as some of her beloved transw?

Happy to. As soon as TRAs stop demanding access to our spaces and threatening to rape and behead us on social media.

This is such wonderful news. I see it as not only a win for the brave, strong women in Scotland who dared to question her idiocy, but a win for uk women everywhere. Well done. Hopefully, this is a lesson learnt.

Well, I'm sad. I disagree with her on this particular issue of gender recognition but generally I think she's been a great role model as a sensible, fair, admirable woman leader. She's been strong for Scotland and stood up to Westminster. I hope her successor is also a strong Scotswoman

Women are murdered every day across the world. In the UK alone, it is estimated that 2 women are murdered each week (by former or current partners). Where is your kindness and compassion for them? Your kindness and compassion for all the women who have experienced less fatal male violence, experienced sexual assault or sexual harassment (almost all adult women), and who want and need, for their safety and sense of safety and dignity, single-sex spaces away from men when they are in a vulnerable position (in prisons, in changing rooms, etc.)?

How can you call it treating women with dignity to claim that what makes you a woman is not simply being female, but some vague thought in your head? That you, a person who was a female baby and then a girl and now an adult woman, are the same as a person who was a male baby and then a boy and at some point claimed on some basis to "identify as a woman"? What is it that you think these two people have in common that makes it appropriate to describe them both as "women"?

He sounds painful. Women’s rights winning.

Great for us. I can see some will be bewildered and upset after telling us no one cared. Tough, they do.

So be better than them. When you make hateful comments the hatful people don’t hear it. The trans kids do and your kids so and it creates more and more fear and hatred.

I work in the legal system and agree with you 100% on the threat of male violence towards women. But you can be concerned about that and also kind to trans kids and their families. That doesn’t mean allowing rapists into prisons but it means can we not navigate this issue with some empathy, on both sides and stop fuelling the hatred? How is that a controversial thing to say?

Tiptoeing around trying not to trigger hurty feelz is a contributor to the problem, not the pathway out of it.

I’ve had a ‘hatful’ of pointless tone policing already, ta!

You may disagree with her but she is trying to get this difficult issue right. A teenager trans girl was murdered this week. Isn’t it time to take some of the heat and the hatred out of this debate and focus on being kind and treating people with dignity?

Funny how “being kind” means women sacrificing their safety, privacy and dignity without debate or even being heard.

It is a difficult issue, but “getting it right” for trans people meant getting it very wrong for women, and there was no attempt to square that circle. The issue is divisive and heated because Sturgeon created an environment where women had to scream to be heard. She created the very division she expects others to heal - mainly by getting those pesky women to shut up and put up. Had she undertaken proper consultation, listened to women’s concerns and acted to safeguard women and children she’d possibly still be in her job.

Instead her government issued illegal guidance to schools, put violent men in prison with vulnerable women and tried to make it possible for 16 year olds to consent to life altering medical treatment without the support and guidance (or even knowledge) of their parents. She effectively tried to erase women as a sexual class. Where’s the dignity in that?

Putting men into women's prisons isn't treating women with kindness or dignity.

ZeldaFighter · Today 13:39

I disagree with her on this particular issue of gender recognition but generally I think she's been a great role model as a sensible, fair, admirable woman leader.

Who has presided over a marked decline in educational standards, a worsening health service, the worst level of drug use and deaths in the West, the billions wasted on a ferry, built by cronies.

And the misuse of £600,000 in donations, given to fund an independence drive.

Sorry, which of those are most admirable?

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scotland-ferries-scandal-nicola-sturgeon-challenged-on-corporate-fraud-and-political-corruption-allegations-around-ferry-contract-procurement-3861095

Scottish Tories leader Douglas Ross has accused Nicola Sturgeon of presiding over a process that looks like “corporate fraud” and “political corruption” in relation to the procurement process for two late and over-budget ferries.

It follows allegations made during a BBC Scotland documentary the contract award process for hulls 801 and 802 for the Clyde and Hebrides was rigged in favour of Ferguson Marine, then owned by Scottish Government economic adviser and Yes-supporting businessman Jim McColl.