Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender Critical Disputes - Radical Notion special edition free to read online

1000 replies

IwantToRetire · 04/02/2023 21:40

Cant say I have heard of Radical Notion. They say:

THE RADICAL NOTION was founded in 2020 to create a space for the resurgent wave of feminist thinking and activism. This not-for-profit magazine is run by an all-women collective of radical and socialist feminists. We are committed to the materialist analysis of sex-based oppression, and to challenging the material and symbolic structures of male dominance. This moment is a historic opportunity to deepen and widen the analysis of all aspects of women’s political condition, and its foundational role in all systems of extraction and domination.

We welcome words and images from women of all nationalities, classes, ethnicities and backgrounds to illuminate the meaning of feminist politics in their lives, and to create a global picture of this political moment. Our current battle, and the social, political and environmental unravellings we see all around us are, at their root, crises of patriarchy. We want to seize this moment to speak that truth.

theradicalnotion.org/gender-critical-disputes/

It seems quite expensive to subscribe but they have made this issue free to read online. A lot of it seems to be the ongoing antagonism (meaning the issues are real but seem to be motivated as much by personal fallouts) between radical feminist and socialist feminist gender critical women.

Some may remember this thread www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4662757-womens-place-uk-filia-event-the-elephant-ignored-yet-again and the revelation that WPUK seems to now be linked to the group Actual Gender Critical Left, who endlessly snipe about Karin Dansky and KJK.

Anyhow posting in case anyone wants to have a read.

Still not sure why some women think in the day of virtual opportunites to talk directly to other women, they need to go down the routed of "publishing" as though their ideas are somehow special and shouldn't be submitted to the rough and tumble on online forums like this one!

OP posts:
Thread gallery
25
Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 21:57

Thanks GrinitchSpinach

Frankly, being on MN has opened my mind a great deal to how entrenched one can get in their own tribe. I'm as guilty as anyone. It breaks my heart how blind my party is to what's happening to women and girls

I also think it shows how credible GC ideas are when people of diverse political persuasions agree wholeheartedly on this topic. Despite what TRAs want us to believe, leftists don't suddenly becomes right wing (or vice versa) for having GC views. I still care deeply about progressive issues like gun control, universal healthcare and strong climate protections.

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2023 21:59

Christ, when I left it was Trump. I've returned and it's Farage.

Backs out quickly

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:01

I still need to Google Farage...

RealFeminist · 05/02/2023 22:05

IS THIS ABOUT THE FERRIES AGAIN?

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:05

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:01

I still need to Google Farage...

Imagine Beaker from the Muppets, drinking a pint of beer and saying shitty things about immigration.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:06

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:05

Imagine Beaker from the Muppets, drinking a pint of beer and saying shitty things about immigration.

Yes

spot on description

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:07

Lol. Maybe I'll just skip it then. Bake a cake instead.

DarkDayforMN · 05/02/2023 22:08

It's old news but I'm sick of Hillary getting smeared in a feminism forum

You are completely misrepresenting previous comments on the thread.

I brought the "deplorables" comment up as an example of how monstering even the people you find most distasteful is usually not a good idea. You appear to agree it was a massive tactical error as you complained it "didn't land." Personally I think it was inevitable that using such loaded language was going to backfire, but hindsight is 20/20 - and yes, Trump got away with a lot worse, but people expect oafishness from him so it doesn't damage his image.

anyway, farewell to your derail. Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned it since it's a sore point for good reasons, but it is also a very good example of the point I was making, regardless of the important (but perhaps not emotionally salient?) distinction between "some" and "most" that you have painstakingly pointed out, in the face of zero disagreement.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:10

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:07

Lol. Maybe I'll just skip it then. Bake a cake instead.

Hes a nicotine stained man frog…according to alister campbell

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:10

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:07

Lol. Maybe I'll just skip it then. Bake a cake instead.

Behold! You must suffer The Awfulness of the Most Prick-ish Shoes Known to Humanity:

Gender Critical Disputes - Radical Notion special edition free to read online
NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:11

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:10

Hes a nicotine stained man frog…according to alister campbell

That made me LOL.

And made me even more sure that the rumours are true and Malcolm Tucker is based on Alistair Campbell.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:12

Yes i heard that

love malcolm tucker 😀

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:12

My eyes! My eyes!!

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:15

😀

AlisonDonut · 05/02/2023 22:15

WinterDeWinter · 05/02/2023 21:12

You really think KJK owes her activism to Nigel Farage?
Not at all. Im talking about women on here.

We owe our feminism to Nigel Farage?

What the fuck you been smoking bruv.

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:16

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:12

My eyes! My eyes!!

He’s Trump’s Tiny British Friend.

Whoever dreamt up ‘Farage Feminism’ is deffo from the same group of snobs who came up with ‘Poundshop LePen’, I reckon.

Gender Critical Disputes - Radical Notion special edition free to read online
RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:22

nicola adding insult to injury….

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:23

Poor delphinium will be traumatised

Delphinium20 · 05/02/2023 22:24

Well, I've been educated Blush

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/02/2023 22:26

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:05

Imagine Beaker from the Muppets, drinking a pint of beer and saying shitty things about immigration.

I'm still reeling slightly from the youtube clip of Nigel Farage's 'Talking Pints' that someone linked to on here, with him talking to a slightly stunned looking metrosexual american young man who was bemusedly clutching a pint while trying to talk about politics.

the man's basically Alan Partridge

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:27

Did you see the dating episode with farage and rachel johnson?

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:32

I have not seen either but the very idea of both is cracking me up.

Helleofabore · 05/02/2023 22:33

RealFeminist · 05/02/2023 22:05

IS THIS ABOUT THE FERRIES AGAIN?

If you want furries, it is on the other thread, Nic. HTH

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:36

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 05/02/2023 22:32

I have not seen either but the very idea of both is cracking me up.

i only watched about 10 minutes and ive no idea what show it was on but they were just having a dinner and Rachel johnson got very flirty and farage did not know what to do with himself

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 05/02/2023 22:37

i think it was called brexit blind date on the victoria darbyshire show

i just googled it

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread