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Gender Critical Disputes - Radical Notion special edition free to read online

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IwantToRetire · 04/02/2023 21:40

Cant say I have heard of Radical Notion. They say:

THE RADICAL NOTION was founded in 2020 to create a space for the resurgent wave of feminist thinking and activism. This not-for-profit magazine is run by an all-women collective of radical and socialist feminists. We are committed to the materialist analysis of sex-based oppression, and to challenging the material and symbolic structures of male dominance. This moment is a historic opportunity to deepen and widen the analysis of all aspects of women’s political condition, and its foundational role in all systems of extraction and domination.

We welcome words and images from women of all nationalities, classes, ethnicities and backgrounds to illuminate the meaning of feminist politics in their lives, and to create a global picture of this political moment. Our current battle, and the social, political and environmental unravellings we see all around us are, at their root, crises of patriarchy. We want to seize this moment to speak that truth.

theradicalnotion.org/gender-critical-disputes/

It seems quite expensive to subscribe but they have made this issue free to read online. A lot of it seems to be the ongoing antagonism (meaning the issues are real but seem to be motivated as much by personal fallouts) between radical feminist and socialist feminist gender critical women.

Some may remember this thread www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4662757-womens-place-uk-filia-event-the-elephant-ignored-yet-again and the revelation that WPUK seems to now be linked to the group Actual Gender Critical Left, who endlessly snipe about Karin Dansky and KJK.

Anyhow posting in case anyone wants to have a read.

Still not sure why some women think in the day of virtual opportunites to talk directly to other women, they need to go down the routed of "publishing" as though their ideas are somehow special and shouldn't be submitted to the rough and tumble on online forums like this one!

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Helleofabore · 16/03/2023 21:17

Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:12

You didn't use fuck enough.

Fuck!

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Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:20

TinselAngel · 16/03/2023 21:15

It was for Boiledbeetle
and her giant sarcastic arrow

it honestly was supposed to be a little arrow. But I saved the file before I had chance to shrink it. So it was obviously choosing to identify as a big arrow. Or I'm a lazy cow!

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/03/2023 21:23

Here's a Fucking reminder for you Going Fucking forwards!

Devon and Cornwall police are going to want a word!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/03/2023 21:24

#tomatoesaintnofruit

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 16/03/2023 21:25

Looking forward to our next visit from the finger wagging nonbinary boychild in the hippy frock and manky old trainers.

There are a LOT of Potter-themed gifs

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Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:25

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/03/2023 21:23

Here's a Fucking reminder for you Going Fucking forwards!

Devon and Cornwall police are going to want a word!

Thanks for the warning

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raspberrywine · 16/03/2023 21:28

What gifs? Where? I can't see them.

Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:29

Well OK then!

Gender Critical Disputes - Radical Notion special edition free to read online
TinselAngel · 16/03/2023 21:31

it honestly was supposed to be a little arrow

OK you’re forgiven Boiled

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Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:31

raspberrywine · 16/03/2023 21:28

What gifs? Where? I can't see them.

It's alright they don't exist. They are just a figment of our imagination. Or too many drugs in my 20s

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Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:33

TinselAngel · 16/03/2023 21:31

it honestly was supposed to be a little arrow

OK you’re forgiven Boiled

Ooh thank God!

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Helleofabore · 16/03/2023 21:34

Just saying that giving all these fucks still won’t increase my overall % usage. I really need to fucking pull my finger out and lift that %!!!

Or should I parse it to how many times used in 2023 already? Because really this year I am so over the fuckwittery that I don’t give a fuck who is offended by my language.

WinterDeWinter · 16/03/2023 21:34

”I'm astounded at how right wing this place has become.”

”You do sound like bigots when you use it. Like racist bigots, to be specific.”

“This is Farage feminism.”

@Helleofabore, these are all valid criticisms, not denigration.

This place has become much more right wing. I don't mean centrist, I mean right wing.

You do sound like racist bigots when you use the word 'woke' and demand to be the arbiters of what is and isn't racist. Whichever poster said that claims of racism were so often 'bollocks' was basically saying that people 'play the race card'. Which is what, you know, racists say. And, with no self-awareness of what it looked like to others beyond the group, continued digging deeper.

Posters have used Farage's method of demonising those who challenge their own rhetoric as patronising 'elitists', in order to cynically stir up a sense that the group is under attack from above.

I wish you could see what you look like from outside the group. It's really awful.

raspberrywine · 16/03/2023 21:35

I do remember that Tomato.

"I've identified as a veg for ever. I've been in your salad bowl and you didn't even notice. Tomato Rights are Salad Rights".

TinselAngel · 16/03/2023 21:36

We’re not right wing

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Helleofabore · 16/03/2023 21:36

WinterDeWinter · 16/03/2023 21:34

”I'm astounded at how right wing this place has become.”

”You do sound like bigots when you use it. Like racist bigots, to be specific.”

“This is Farage feminism.”

@Helleofabore, these are all valid criticisms, not denigration.

This place has become much more right wing. I don't mean centrist, I mean right wing.

You do sound like racist bigots when you use the word 'woke' and demand to be the arbiters of what is and isn't racist. Whichever poster said that claims of racism were so often 'bollocks' was basically saying that people 'play the race card'. Which is what, you know, racists say. And, with no self-awareness of what it looked like to others beyond the group, continued digging deeper.

Posters have used Farage's method of demonising those who challenge their own rhetoric as patronising 'elitists', in order to cynically stir up a sense that the group is under attack from above.

I wish you could see what you look like from outside the group. It's really awful.

So, using the theory behind some of the posts on racism, those who feel denigrated are not the ones to call out the denigration then?

Helleofabore · 16/03/2023 21:39

WinterDeWinter · 16/03/2023 21:34

”I'm astounded at how right wing this place has become.”

”You do sound like bigots when you use it. Like racist bigots, to be specific.”

“This is Farage feminism.”

@Helleofabore, these are all valid criticisms, not denigration.

This place has become much more right wing. I don't mean centrist, I mean right wing.

You do sound like racist bigots when you use the word 'woke' and demand to be the arbiters of what is and isn't racist. Whichever poster said that claims of racism were so often 'bollocks' was basically saying that people 'play the race card'. Which is what, you know, racists say. And, with no self-awareness of what it looked like to others beyond the group, continued digging deeper.

Posters have used Farage's method of demonising those who challenge their own rhetoric as patronising 'elitists', in order to cynically stir up a sense that the group is under attack from above.

I wish you could see what you look like from outside the group. It's really awful.

And I disagree that those comments were not meant to denigrate and shame.

Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:39

I wish you could see what you look like from outside the group. It's really awful.

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Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:41

Oh the thread is nearly full

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ArabellaScott · 16/03/2023 21:41

I wish you could see what you look like from outside the group. It's really awful.

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Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:42

It's been fun!

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TinselAngel · 16/03/2023 21:42

.

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ArabellaScott · 16/03/2023 21:42

I mean, I have been looking a bit haggard lately.

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Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 21:42

Bye!

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