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Gender Critical Disputes - Radical Notion special edition free to read online

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IwantToRetire · 04/02/2023 21:40

Cant say I have heard of Radical Notion. They say:

THE RADICAL NOTION was founded in 2020 to create a space for the resurgent wave of feminist thinking and activism. This not-for-profit magazine is run by an all-women collective of radical and socialist feminists. We are committed to the materialist analysis of sex-based oppression, and to challenging the material and symbolic structures of male dominance. This moment is a historic opportunity to deepen and widen the analysis of all aspects of women’s political condition, and its foundational role in all systems of extraction and domination.

We welcome words and images from women of all nationalities, classes, ethnicities and backgrounds to illuminate the meaning of feminist politics in their lives, and to create a global picture of this political moment. Our current battle, and the social, political and environmental unravellings we see all around us are, at their root, crises of patriarchy. We want to seize this moment to speak that truth.

theradicalnotion.org/gender-critical-disputes/

It seems quite expensive to subscribe but they have made this issue free to read online. A lot of it seems to be the ongoing antagonism (meaning the issues are real but seem to be motivated as much by personal fallouts) between radical feminist and socialist feminist gender critical women.

Some may remember this thread www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4662757-womens-place-uk-filia-event-the-elephant-ignored-yet-again and the revelation that WPUK seems to now be linked to the group Actual Gender Critical Left, who endlessly snipe about Karin Dansky and KJK.

Anyhow posting in case anyone wants to have a read.

Still not sure why some women think in the day of virtual opportunites to talk directly to other women, they need to go down the routed of "publishing" as though their ideas are somehow special and shouldn't be submitted to the rough and tumble on online forums like this one!

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SulisMinerva · 17/02/2023 12:22

My print copy of radical notion arrived today. I subscribed to a year not that long ago, flicked throigh and landed on 'feminism is not the same as femalism' - a direct reference to Kelly Jay-Keen.

I just can't be fucked to read a magazine that is undermining a woman who outs heraelf in danger and out on the streets to amplify women's voices.

My feelings too. It’s the last issue in my subscription and I won’t be renewing.

WinterDeWinter · 15/03/2023 22:24

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beastlyslumber · 15/03/2023 22:38

What the hell? Why have you turned up out of nowhere to call me a troll? Wtf?

Were you not the poster calling us Farage Feminists? If so, my comments still stand. If not, then obviously my comments are directed to the poster who coined that moniker.

EndlessTea · 15/03/2023 23:04

beastlyslumber · 15/03/2023 22:38

What the hell? Why have you turned up out of nowhere to call me a troll? Wtf?

Were you not the poster calling us Farage Feminists? If so, my comments still stand. If not, then obviously my comments are directed to the poster who coined that moniker.

🫤🤣

WinterDeWinter · 15/03/2023 23:24

beastlyslumber · 15/03/2023 22:38

What the hell? Why have you turned up out of nowhere to call me a troll? Wtf?

Were you not the poster calling us Farage Feminists? If so, my comments still stand. If not, then obviously my comments are directed to the poster who coined that moniker.

Well obviously am that poster. I’m asking you to expand on a bullshit argument that you made. The bullshit argument was:

its misogynist to accuse women of using Farage-like populist debating techniques.

if you can’t explain how or why, without referring to ‘things I know are true’, I think we’ll all be comfortable thinking that you’re talking out of your arse. Again.

EndlessTea · 15/03/2023 23:28

WinterDeWinter · 15/03/2023 23:24

Well obviously am that poster. I’m asking you to expand on a bullshit argument that you made. The bullshit argument was:

its misogynist to accuse women of using Farage-like populist debating techniques.

if you can’t explain how or why, without referring to ‘things I know are true’, I think we’ll all be comfortable thinking that you’re talking out of your arse. Again.

I’m impressed you can remember the arguments on the thread and who said what. Did you need to read the thread again to refresh?

WinterDeWinter · 15/03/2023 23:37

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EndlessTea · 15/03/2023 23:41

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You have just revived a thread that’s been dormant for a month and expect beastly to know what you are on about…

beastlyslumber · 15/03/2023 23:43

Oh so it was just a very long dinner time, I guess Grin And whatever you had clearly made you very angry.

I think if it mattered you would have responded to me at the time, so I assume you've just turned up now looking for a fight. Not interested.

WinterDeWinter · 15/03/2023 23:46

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WinterDeWinter · 15/03/2023 23:47

beastlyslumber · 15/03/2023 23:43

Oh so it was just a very long dinner time, I guess Grin And whatever you had clearly made you very angry.

I think if it mattered you would have responded to me at the time, so I assume you've just turned up now looking for a fight. Not interested.

Convenient eh.

beastlyslumber · 16/03/2023 00:28

The comment is self explanatory. Nothing to add.

beastlyslumber · 16/03/2023 00:35

WinterDeWinter · 05/02/2023 20:08

Dinner really is ready now. Thanks for listening.

Ha I thought it was you! Dear God, I can't believe I've been living rent free in your head all these weeks GrinGrinGrin

Boiledbeetle · 16/03/2023 00:58

WinterDeWinter · 15/03/2023 23:24

Well obviously am that poster. I’m asking you to expand on a bullshit argument that you made. The bullshit argument was:

its misogynist to accuse women of using Farage-like populist debating techniques.

if you can’t explain how or why, without referring to ‘things I know are true’, I think we’ll all be comfortable thinking that you’re talking out of your arse. Again.

A over a month ago! You are querying a post from over a month ago?!?

Are you an incredibly slow reader? Or did dinner take longer to make than you realised?

Is there not more recent posts for you to get upset and take umbrage about?

EndlessTea · 16/03/2023 06:46

beastlyslumber · 16/03/2023 00:35

Ha I thought it was you! Dear God, I can't believe I've been living rent free in your head all these weeks GrinGrinGrin

You do have an amazing memory! 😂

beastlyslumber · 16/03/2023 07:37

I'm thinking it was some kind of Narnia moment. They fell into another dimension over the tea table. It was only one minute in the other world, but a whole month passed in ours...

EndlessTea · 16/03/2023 07:38

🤣 that explains it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/03/2023 07:55

beastlyslumber · 07/02/2023 13:54

Quick summary for anyone joining the thread just now:

Hello, you are all stupid bigots and you get your feminism from Nigel Farage.

Wait, why are you all being so mean to me?

I never said you were stupid bigots.

Okay I did say it, but I didn't mean it. You're too stupid to understand. And racist. You're definitely racist.

Why are you saying you're not racist? That's racist.

Why are you laughing at me? You're all racists and stupid bigots.

I didn't mean it the first time I said it, but now I really do think you're all stupid bigots.

If I'm abusive to you, it's only because you deserve it. You've made me feel terrible now by resisting my abuse. Why don't you just take it, you GRIM HORRENDOUS BIGOTED SHIRE WIVES OF FARAGE?

I'm going now. You've made me sad with your horrible name-calling. Yes I know I was the only one to call names, but you made me do it.

I'm still here but only because you're still stupid bigots.

I know I said I was going but you don't understand, I'm a very important and busy person and I don't have time to make my posts not full of sneering insults and name calling.

Bye. Hope you feel good about what meanies you are.

And another thing...

Worth reposting.

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 16/03/2023 09:04

This thread is so old I’ve since changed name three times.

ArabellaScott · 16/03/2023 09:05

If we're doing over February, I do look forward to rewatching Nicola Sturgeon's resignation.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/03/2023 09:05

Is that because you've left Nigel and are no longer a Shire Wife?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/03/2023 09:06

If we're doing over February, I do look forward to rewatching Nicola Sturgeon's resignation.

Grin yes

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 16/03/2023 09:07

ArabellaScott · 16/03/2023 09:05

If we're doing over February, I do look forward to rewatching Nicola Sturgeon's resignation.

I hope the press doesn’t start reprinting pics of Isla Bryson’s pink leggings.

We haven’t yet replenished the eye bleach stocks.

ArabellaScott · 16/03/2023 09:07
Nigel Farage Goodbye GIF

Nigel? Not my Nigel.

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 16/03/2023 09:10

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/03/2023 09:05

Is that because you've left Nigel and are no longer a Shire Wife?

The rumours about Nige’s Bigamous Behaviour in the Shires were greatly exaggerated.

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