Times: “Isla Bryson is Sturgeon’s Poll Tax moment”

[SidewaysOtter]

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a8cc04a2-a4a5-11ed-9d5c-69bd3c5b98b3?shareToken=0d217dc3eb76e6c335f8de48824ac0ef

Interesting that it would seem the SNP are realising that this is immensely unpopular amongst its voters and the general populace.

And it shines yet more light on Sturgeon’s ridiculous “Trans women are women except when it doesn’t suit my political ambitions they’re not” standpoint, as well as how women’s fears were dismissed only to be found entirely valid.

5 that's it

Much incoherent bollocks

"We've been doing this for years (and were popping Bryson and Scott in to add to the steady wreckage of women being reported by the victims and women's staff) and we were just harming women and pandering to men quite happily until everyone noticed and said wtf do you think you're doing. Meanies. Shut up and let women be abused and stop fussing about it."

More incoherent bollocks.

Men are women. Except when they're not.

And yet more there are three sexes: men, women and rapists.

@nilsmousehammer yeah that's about it. I couldn't be arsed to read all her waffle again to type

So disingenuous

Part of the SNP constitution is that members are forbidden to question the leadership- so they’re a bit stuck with her.
Ultimately that will have to change. It’s more like to constitution of a dictatorship currently.

Wow really?! That's nuts!

Some of it is here but there are various clips on Twitter

twitter.com/markthehibby/status/1622572048659673088?s=46&t=KXw1jod35_jmldDoObsZRA

And a really good thread on it here

twitter.com/jebadoo2/status/1622579115596607489?s=46&t=KXw1jod35_jmldDoObsZRA

'Other countries do it with problems that only affect women which we hide, and it's not like it bothers men or politicians so what the fuck eh? no problems'.

BATSHIT.

Referring to the first minister’s “meltdown”, another sympathetic SNP source noted that Sturgeon is “obviously worried and anxious. Voters can’t understand why we are so wedded to this.”

That's what I don't understand either. Why ARE they so wedded to this?

As I understand it they're also forbidden from criticising party policy.

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-accused-gagging-own-mps-stalin-2473803

Not members, MSPs:

'A controversial change to standing orders was overwhelmingly agreed at conference yesterday and states that no MPs shall “publicly criticise a group decision, policy or another member of the group”.

The move prompted criticism from opponents that the party is shutting down open debate within its ranks.'

The media continues to be interested:

"WATCH: Sturgeon She/Hers on the Side of Caution…"
twitter.com/guidofawkes/status/1622605885125148675?s=46&t=KXw1jod35_jmldDoObsZRA

"Stop digging, Nicola! Sturgeon refers to trans rapist Isla Bryson as 'her' before correcting to 'the individual' and insisting the important thing is 'they are in prison'"
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11718393/Nicola-Sturgeon-flounders-calling-trans-rapist-Isla-Bryson-her.html

So Scotland has no second chamber, and the MSPs aren't allowed to disagree with the party line?!?

So basically, whilst the SNP are in the majority Scotland is a dictatorship??

That's not the whole picture, JustWaking. There is also a disturbing connect between the judiciary and the Govt. I'll see if I can find the article ...

Yep. They've filled all the committees that are supposed to scrutinise with SNP yes men.

It's a disaster for Scotland.

Found it at last!

From Robin McAlpine:

sourcenews.scot/robin-mcalpine-the-foundations-of-scotlands-democracy-have-crumbled-and-you-should-worry/

This is actually about the structure of Scotland's government. I could have a dig about and try and find the stuff about judiciary - there were major concerns with a couple of court cases in the past few years that brought the independence of courts into question, to whit:

Craig Murray, journalist, jailed under what seemed to be a confected case.
Alex Salmond, again, appeared to be a politically motivated case.

That's what I don't understand either. Why ARE they so wedded to this?

I’m not in Scotland so Scottish politics aren’t something I pretend to know a lot about but I’m given to understand that the SNP need the support of the Green Party in order to have a big enough share of combined votes to govern. TQ+ policies are supported by the Greens who in turn require the SNP to support them too. No support = no power.

The Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/06/watch-mask-slips-nicola-sturgeon-calls-isla-bryson/

"Watch: ‘Mask slips’ as Nicola Sturgeon calls trans rapist ‘her’

First Minister trips up over description of Isla Bryson, but insists: ‘She regards herself as a woman, I regard the individual as a rapist’"

Linked in the article:

https://twitter.com/dsanderson85/status/1622595089238310912?s=46&t==UAQkTHLaK7BDNDjjYixw

"Nicola Sturgeon accused of "Freudian slip" by referring to transgender double rapist Isla Bryson, previously known as Adam Graham, as "her".

The FM had earlier used female pronouns for Bryson before correcting herself to say "the person"."

And this is the Green Party’s policies on the matter: lgbtiqa.greenparty.org.uk/resources/the-truth-about-the-gra/

Interesting that a fair number of those “myths” are nothing of the sort.

The Green Party in Scotland full of really strange people once you start having a look.

Good comment by Alex Massie:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sturgeon-is-being-damaged-by-her-stand-on-the-isla-bryson-row-mfvrtlcdp

I can't do sharetokens on this laptop but I'm sure someone will be able to.

Here you go: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8a4a7034-a63c-11ed-9311-522a2d54b6fd?shareToken=4f8191b54c11a50ddf3c63d87c4ae16b

Thanks @SidewaysOtter

In fairness, the Conservative and Unionist Party is full of very strange people too.