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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Radio 4 PM Gamers discuss boycotting JKR

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 02/02/2023 17:04

PM programme on now. Evan Davis says there will be an item where gamers discuss whether to boycott the new Hogwarts Legacy game.

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ILikeDungs · 06/02/2023 12:27

Sunday Times have noticed the Davis bias:

"Trans campaign groups such as these have sought to undermine the reality of biology and women’s rights without public discussion. They have done so by exploiting the weak-mindedness of public institutions and encouraging a self- censoring groupthink to flourish in organisations such as the BBC, whose presenter Evan Davis failed to challenge a trans woman who branded JK Rowling transphobic on Radio 4 on Thursday. The same groupthink very nearly won out in the Scottish parliament. Labour must ask itself searching questions over the fact that its MSPs sought amendments to the bill, failed to get them and then voted for it anyway. The shadow cabinet’s widespread inability to define what a woman is suggests that the problem is not confined to north of the border."

Boiledeggandtoast · 06/02/2023 12:41

The Sunday Times also had a column on another page reporting that "The BBC has apologised for not challenging a guest who said JK Rowling promoted "transphobia" and that the Harry Potter author used her platform to campaign against trans people.", and identifies that it was Evan Davis who hosted the discussion.

nauticant · 06/02/2023 17:47

There was a nano-apology at 17.44 by Evan Davis. Blink and you missed it.

comfortablylesslumpy · 06/02/2023 18:07

It was hardly detectable. Was it really an apology?

Good interview afterwards though.

AmigoDogs · 06/02/2023 18:10

It was a 'we could have done better, we've talked to trans people and now we are going to talk to a detransitioner but Evan can't bring himself to talk to an actual woman about this" type moment.

ExiledElsie · 06/02/2023 19:40

I've had the standard response, obviously it didn't answer the questions I put. To be honest it compounded the problem. How could they possibly justify trying to discuss people boycotting JKR without mentioning her views without implicitly condoning the idea that this was justified?

I will find out how to escalate.

Speakingofdinosaurs · 06/02/2023 19:59

I complained too and this was the response

Radio 4 PM Gamers discuss boycotting JKR
Untitledsquatboulder · 07/02/2023 17:09

nauticant · 06/02/2023 17:47

There was a nano-apology at 17.44 by Evan Davis. Blink and you missed it.

Wasn't an apology, it was an acknowledgement that complaints had been received then a clumsy segue into an interview with a detransitioner and her mother.

So, sadly, we will all have to keep on waiting to find out what JKR actually said that was so transphobic or even transphobic at all.

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2023 16:27

Just tagging on the end of this thread.

As part of the BBC World at One today they ran an item about how trans activists are trying to get people to boycott new Hogwarts Legacy game released today.

No mention of the fact that it is the fastest selling game.

So despite sorry not really sorry the influence of the trans watchdogs at the BBC seem to still be in effect.

KatMcBundleFace · 10/02/2023 16:38

I mean the boycott is backfiring wonderfully and a whole new group of people get to hear how unreasonable trans activists are.

They should be mentioning how fast the game is actually selling though.

MsSupineLickspittle · 10/02/2023 16:54

As part of the BBC World at One today they ran an item about how trans activists are trying to get people to boycott new Hogwarts Legacy game released today.

I presume that was the same clip I heard at about 11.30. It was a weird thing to have on.

crunchermuncher · 10/02/2023 17:24

I hope all these hard of thinking wankers hand wringing over buying this game also refuse to watch films directed by Harvey Weinstein. On account of him having being an actual convicted rapist. Or kick up as much fuss about banking with companies that invest in arms, tobacco, etc.

No, didn't think so 🙄

Women are being socially punished for their (totally reasonable) words while men are not for their actions.

ExiledElsie · 10/02/2023 17:46

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2023 16:27

Just tagging on the end of this thread.

As part of the BBC World at One today they ran an item about how trans activists are trying to get people to boycott new Hogwarts Legacy game released today.

No mention of the fact that it is the fastest selling game.

So despite sorry not really sorry the influence of the trans watchdogs at the BBC seem to still be in effect.

I'm going to escalate my complaint as the response has been "we didn't mean it" even though it was pre-recorded.

I think it's worth writing to Feedback as well as the complaints dept. Make it clear the issue is a pattern of behaviour within the BBC, not just a single interview.

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 10/02/2023 17:56

KatMcBundleFace · 10/02/2023 16:38

I mean the boycott is backfiring wonderfully and a whole new group of people get to hear how unreasonable trans activists are.

They should be mentioning how fast the game is actually selling though.

It really is a spectacular backfire!

Anyone interested should come join us on this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4736947-hogwarts-legacy-gets-great-reviews?page=1

It’s a combo of actual gaming chat and eating popcorn 🍿 while we spectate the trans house of cards collapse in real time.

Also, last night we caught Margie PIE ‘doing a transphobia’ as Cursed E phrased it last week, so that’s worth a look.

Happylittlechicken · 10/02/2023 20:44

Not Margie!!? Noooooooo 😂😂😂😂

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2023 23:39

Anyone interested should come join us on this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4736947-hogwarts-legacy-gets-great-reviews?page=1

thanks, I only posted here because it was more about BBC manipulation. Although it seems most of the media today have gone with it as being a story about JKR's "transphobia" rather than the huge sales it has already had, and what seem like really positive reviews.

the media is so servile.

Clymene · 11/02/2023 09:09

MsSupineLickspittle · 10/02/2023 16:54

As part of the BBC World at One today they ran an item about how trans activists are trying to get people to boycott new Hogwarts Legacy game released today.

I presume that was the same clip I heard at about 11.30. It was a weird thing to have on.

It was a clip from a longer piece they did on Today and I think they ran it on every bulletin after. Like it was a headline story.

After Evan Davis had to apologise, you would have thought they may have reconsidered. I can't imagine how awful it must be for JKR to have her name smeared over and over again by our state broadcaster

nauticant · 11/02/2023 11:07

If you listened to Any Questions last night, or catch the repeat after lunch today, you might have doubts about the BBC reconsidering.

The programme came from Scotland and even the BBC couldn't escape from THAT question, so the version they went for (I'd imagine they would have had a choice from among a number submitted by the audience) was rather indirect, along the lines of: has the trans row damaged the campaign for independence.

The answers were:

Fiona Hyslop SNP MSP - Tories brought us Brexit, and Brexit is bad

Angela Haggerty (genderist journalist) - there are more important issues

Michael Marra Labour MSP - people are not interested in this stuff

Murdo Fraser Tory MSP - he was filling in the details, talking about the real world impact, eg rapists in women's prisons, and he was strongly shut down by the host Alex Forsyth on the basis that what he was talking about had been discussed on previous programmes and would be discussed on future programmes.

I think that there's a soft fight-back in support of gender identity ideology going on at the BBC following a series of losses of ideology encountering reality and coming off quite badly.

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