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Sturgeon’s gender ideology is imploding in real time - Telegraph article

72 replies

RoyalCorgi · 01/02/2023 13:08

Excellent piece by Madeline Grant - I don't think it's been shared yet:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/31/sturgeons-gender-ideology-imploding-real-time/

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GrabbyGabby · 01/02/2023 13:13

Oooooh that's a doozie.

Irrelevantdata · 01/02/2023 13:14

Oh my word that's good! The sun is positively beaming now ☀

Fenlandia · 01/02/2023 13:15

Thanks, also it's amazing to see 't*rfs' used in a perfectly neutral way as 'people with ordinary views about rapists in women's prisons' (etc!).

FlowerArranger · 01/02/2023 13:24

The tide seems to be turning 🙏

About time too

highame · 01/02/2023 13:26

can't read unfortunately. Anyone do an archive?

highame · 01/02/2023 13:27

I can read, I just can't read IT 😂

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:28

'Numerous “born-again Terfs” are emerging from the woodwork,' 😂

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:28

archive.is/88EOt

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:29

I did but MN autohides those archive links, unfortunately. Try googling the web address plus 'archive.is'

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:29

Oh ffs. Try googling the web address plus archive with an extension that I can't type here or it auto hides it.

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:30

'when not a single woman was nominated for best artist at the Brit Awards after organisers opted to make the category gender-neutral, Guardian journalist Owen Jones – a long-time critic of gender-ID sceptics – pivoted to demanding that 50 per cent of nominations be “reserved for women”. Gender segregating the gender-neutral Brits is very “there’s no fighting in the war room”'

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:32

Excellent article, and the bit about how gender identity is affirmed in a way that 'thinspiration' wasn't is chilling.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/02/2023 13:34

Great article and great comments underneath. This really has woken people up to the grim reality of what's happening.

Datun · 01/02/2023 13:34

Yes, good article.

All the strands are now getting a very, very public airing, with no hesitation.

Plus

Gender ideologues may continue to self-identify as correct; but, like adults who wear crocs in public, they forget that we can see them.

😁

Irrelevantdata · 01/02/2023 13:35

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:32

Excellent article, and the bit about how gender identity is affirmed in a way that 'thinspiration' wasn't is chilling.

If it's true that anorexia has declined with the rise of gender dysphoria then surely someone should have joined the dots?

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:37

I haven't seen data on anorexia to know whether or not its declined. Is there any?

PoliticalFootball · 01/02/2023 13:40

That line about the crocs 😂

FusionChefGeoff · 01/02/2023 13:43

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:37

I haven't seen data on anorexia to know whether or not its declined. Is there any?

I absolutely believe this to be true - but I don't think you'd be able to get any decent stats as the mental health support services are in such crisis at the moment.

So CAMHS won't accurately record as they are so far behind / the severity has to be so bad nowadays - you wouldn't really be able to compare to say the figures from the 2000s

As a result, Possibly BEAT would report an increase in cases but more to do with CAMHS failing rather than more people with the disease?

OldCrone · 01/02/2023 13:46

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 13:37

I haven't seen data on anorexia to know whether or not its declined. Is there any?

According to the NHS, a record number of people are being treated for eating disorders.

www.england.nhs.uk/2022/03/nhs-treating-record-number-of-young-people-for-eating-disorders/

highame · 01/02/2023 13:46

Thanks Arabella, great read. Madeline Grant has been at the Terfictionary, nice one

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/02/2023 13:48

Cracking article. Hopefully the beginning of the end.

Boomboom22 · 01/02/2023 13:54

It's good to see commin sense in a newspaper. Be interesting to see I this sort of normal language is now allowed to stand as prior to this saying any 1 of the things she said would be enough to get a teacher put on disciplinary or a civil servant sacked. It's the culture of the institutions that has been captured in exactly the way planned in the Denton report, let's hope this is the final piece of the end of this madness.

ResisterRex · 01/02/2023 14:02

The 🐊 line is glorious

knittingaddict · 01/02/2023 14:04

PoliticalFootball · 01/02/2023 13:40

That line about the crocs 😂

As someone who has been known to wear Crocs in public I'm mildly annoyed. The rest is great though.

BlessedKali · 01/02/2023 14:09

Yes a great article.