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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sturgeon’s gender ideology is imploding in real time - Telegraph article

72 replies

RoyalCorgi · 01/02/2023 13:08

Excellent piece by Madeline Grant - I don't think it's been shared yet:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/31/sturgeons-gender-ideology-imploding-real-time/

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ArabellaScott · 01/02/2023 14:11

OldCrone · 01/02/2023 13:46

According to the NHS, a record number of people are being treated for eating disorders.

www.england.nhs.uk/2022/03/nhs-treating-record-number-of-young-people-for-eating-disorders/

Thanks. I think it's probably quite complex - of course there are lots of co-morbidities in young people with gender issues. Cass is hopefully going to shed more light on this.

YouJustDoYou · 01/02/2023 14:14

Gender ideologues may continue to self-identify as correct; but, like adults who wear crocs in public, they forget that we can see them

Oh God, this is BRILLIANT

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 01/02/2023 14:16

We see you Knitting Grin
Thanks for the archive link Arabella.
Sunlight!

RedCarsGoFaster · 01/02/2023 14:20

I love my Crocs 😭

V interesting point about the reduction in eating disorders - but a correlation I was aware of.

oldwomanwhoruns · 01/02/2023 14:24

One of the comments says:
Interestingly STV managed to cut the interview so only the less damaging part was broadcast in Scotland.

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:25

Numerous “born-again Terfs” are emerging from the woodwork, in a manner of speaking.

ResisterRex · 01/02/2023 14:27

Anyone else worried FWR might have to be further hived off for the self-identified croc wearers among us? Shock

hryllilegur · 01/02/2023 14:27

YouJustDoYou · 01/02/2023 14:14

Gender ideologues may continue to self-identify as correct; but, like adults who wear crocs in public, they forget that we can see them

Oh God, this is BRILLIANT

Absolutely

What a sentence.

TightFistedWozerk · 01/02/2023 14:28

Thank you Arabella.

I wonder how many lurkers read but don't post? It is a heartening thought to consider that countless wims are reading, digesting, considering, thinking. Like you are now, I was once - if you never post, that is ok. Each wim's wool pulled from their eyes is a triumph. [hi fives]

hryllilegur · 01/02/2023 14:28

oldwomanwhoruns · 01/02/2023 14:24

One of the comments says:
Interestingly STV managed to cut the interview so only the less damaging part was broadcast in Scotland.

That is alarming.

slamfightbrightlight · 01/02/2023 14:31

Had Madeline Grant written about this subject before? Just curious to see whether journalists are feeling braver seeing the sway of public opinion on the subject to speak up.

ClaphamSouth · 01/02/2023 14:35

oldwomanwhoruns · 01/02/2023 14:24

One of the comments says:
Interestingly STV managed to cut the interview so only the less damaging part was broadcast in Scotland.

Ooh, GIs are very keen on the old censorship malarky aren't they Grin

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:35

Now out was really good right up to but, like adults who wear crocs in public, they forget that we can see them.

Well. She can fuck off. Looks down at my feet clad in crocs socks and crocs slippers. Looks over at my beautifully housed 100 different pairs of crocs, lovely protected from dust.

She's Crocphobic she is. You Crocist, you Grant. Straight up out there unadulterated Crocist.

I'm fucking disgusted

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:35

CROCS WEARER LIVES MATTER

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:37

knittingaddict · 01/02/2023 14:04

As someone who has been known to wear Crocs in public I'm mildly annoyed. The rest is great though.

Solidarity sister

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:38

RedCarsGoFaster · 01/02/2023 14:20

I love my Crocs 😭

V interesting point about the reduction in eating disorders - but a correlation I was aware of.

💐

Helleofabore · 01/02/2023 14:39

ResisterRex · 01/02/2023 14:27

Anyone else worried FWR might have to be further hived off for the self-identified croc wearers among us? Shock

👀

slamfightbrightlight · 01/02/2023 14:39

RE: eating disorders, locally there’s been a significant increase in ARFID - you’d need a breakdown by diagnosis as anorexia may be declining but other disorders increasing

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:40

You think I'm joking?

I'm proper fuming.

For real.

I'm off to ring Colorado.

I KNOW PEOPLE!

potniatheron · 01/02/2023 14:41

The anorexia comparison is difficult to make because the diagnostic parameters for eating disorders have expanded a lot over the past few decades. A diagnosis of anorexia used to require a BMI below (I think but may be misremembering) 14 but now you can make a diagnosis of restrictive eating disorder without recourse to BMI or weight.

It's also difficult because anorexics try to hide their disease or even admit it exists so there may be many with such an ED who have not been formally diagnosed or showing up in stats. Same with bulimia / BD. Where people with body dysmophia seem to be very keen to seek a formal diagnosis asap to get access to drugs / surgery.

However I think it would be very fair to say on an anecdotal level that body dysmorphia has overtaken anorexia / bulimia / restriction as the socially contagious mental health condition du jour and this is certainly the case in my experience.

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:42

The article does show though how Nicola pushed through, and was already allowing to happening something that was indefensible. There is no good way out of this for the TRA side

Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 14:48

ResisterRex · 01/02/2023 14:27

Anyone else worried FWR might have to be further hived off for the self-identified croc wearers among us? Shock

😁but they are comfy

MidsomerMurmurs · 01/02/2023 14:48

oldwomanwhoruns · 01/02/2023 14:24

One of the comments says:
Interestingly STV managed to cut the interview so only the less damaging part was broadcast in Scotland.

That is not remotely surprising.

GrumpyPanda · 01/02/2023 14:59

Can we now rehabilitate Birkenstocks? [ducks and runs]

ResisterRex · 01/02/2023 15:22

Not sure Birkenstocks ever divided people quite like Crocs #controversialopinions

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