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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another politician reverse-ferreting on men in women's prisons. So many skid marks on the roads today! Be safe out there, folks.

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Fenlandia · 27/01/2023 12:02

Jenny Jones of the Green party has tweeted:

"In 2015 I signed a letter calling for trans women to be housed in the female estate. But that does not include male sexual predators who falsely self ID to insert themselves into a space with vulnerable women."

twitter.com/GreenJennyJones/status/1618682444437393408

The comments are predictable, all on the lines of 'but with SELF ID how do you know which ones are false?'

Absolutely pathetic, I wish Magdalen Burns were here to prick these stupid self-serving, reality-denying egos.

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ValerieDoonican · 27/01/2023 16:58

That's a really telling excerpt @EndlessTea

OldCrone · 27/01/2023 17:04

RoyalCorgi · 27/01/2023 16:03

Green is serving life after she and two accomplices sexually assaulted a man with a rolling pin, tied him up, tortured him and beat him to death."

I've run out of words like "unbelievable." But it just defies any kind of sense, doesn't it? And the Sunday Times reported this four years ago. Where was the anger there?

Why have all these politicians only just realised that sex offenders and other violent males are in women's prisons? This has been going on for years.

Paris Green was in a women's prison 10 years ago.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/pre-op-transsexual-killer-moved-out-2928751

Karen Jones (aka Karen Lawson) was in a women's prison in 2009 while serving a sentence for manslaughter and attempted rape.

www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/transexual-rapist-jailed-6971617.html

web.archive.org/web/20090908114458/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6138325/Transsexual-prisoner-wins-right-to-be-in-female-prison.html

And then when these violent males get out of prison they get invited to the HoL to 'advise' about trans issues. MN thread about Jones from 2018.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3192486-Lord-Patel-Karen-Jones-thread-anyone-want-to-go-to-House-of-Lords-to-talk-to-Lord-Patel

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 17:12

EndlessTea · 27/01/2023 16:10

Here James Morton is basically admitting it was a gateway to open up all single sex spaces.

So, I pretended I was reading one of the many dystopian sci fi style books I have read.

And honestly As i started reading it actually reads better as that than some of the actual books I've read!

Joolsin · 27/01/2023 17:39

How do you tell the difference between a man pretending to be a woman and a man pretending to pretend to be a woman?

My favourite tweet from the replies. Can't express it better than that.

EndlessTea · 27/01/2023 18:10

Gawd I have been up to a little more snuffling around under rocks and I found Andy Wightman’s blog explaining his resignation from the Scottish Greens http://www.andywightman.com/archives/4634 and in it you see that another ‘trans’ abdl (adult baby diaper lover) was throwing h** weight around Eilidh Martin https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-quiet-part-out-loud/
Aimee Challenor was groomed by older ‘trans’ abdl’s and it is disturbing that h** dad also had a thing for nappies and cross-dressing.

It is surely too much of a coincidence that a group of people with the same fetishes and the same MO manage to get so much influence inside a political party?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 27/01/2023 19:17

Velvian · 27/01/2023 13:11

... But what do they think gender critical women were objecting to in terms of self-ID if not this?

This is not the first time this has happened either, why wasn't this about face expressed prior to this?

They thought we were saying all trans women are sexual predators - to be trans is to be a predator. Because the howls of outrage about what we were claimed to be saying were louder than ours, and more outraged than ours, and more simplistic than ours, and less banned than ours, and drowned out what we were really saying.

And of course, for those who define themselves as allies, they want to believe that is what we are saying. When the "other side"'s argument is irrational and easily dismissed, you can dismiss it without any need to think too hard about your own side's assumptions.

NotBadConsidering · 27/01/2023 21:05

Joolsin · 27/01/2023 17:39

How do you tell the difference between a man pretending to be a woman and a man pretending to pretend to be a woman?

My favourite tweet from the replies. Can't express it better than that.

And based on her tweet:

A sexual predator pretending to be a woman is fine to go to a women’s prison, but a sexual predator pretending to pretend be a woman shouldn’t.

Because she’s a fucking idiot.

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 21:11

EndlessTea · 27/01/2023 18:10

Gawd I have been up to a little more snuffling around under rocks and I found Andy Wightman’s blog explaining his resignation from the Scottish Greens http://www.andywightman.com/archives/4634 and in it you see that another ‘trans’ abdl (adult baby diaper lover) was throwing h** weight around Eilidh Martin https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-quiet-part-out-loud/
Aimee Challenor was groomed by older ‘trans’ abdl’s and it is disturbing that h** dad also had a thing for nappies and cross-dressing.

It is surely too much of a coincidence that a group of people with the same fetishes and the same MO manage to get so much influence inside a political party?

What? Don't be daft. Nothing to see here.

Look squirrel.

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