Another politician reverse-ferreting on men in women's prisons. So many skid marks on the roads today! Be safe out there, folks.

[Fenlandia]

Jenny Jones of the Green party has tweeted:

"In 2015 I signed a letter calling for trans women to be housed in the female estate. But that does not include male sexual predators who falsely self ID to insert themselves into a space with vulnerable women."

twitter.com/GreenJennyJones/status/1618682444437393408

The comments are predictable, all on the lines of 'but with SELF ID how do you know which ones are false?'

Absolutely pathetic, I wish Magdalen Burns were here to prick these stupid self-serving, reality-denying egos.

There are two reports that have other dates but not sure if they mean anything.

www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/westminster.html - page 143 talks about an email and has a sort of timeline. There are links to the email that was eventually found.

"On 17 December 2014, the Green Party received an email containing allegations of child sexual abuse against a Green Party candidate for the House of Commons".

www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/images/national-site/Final%20report%20-%20Executive%20summary-%20cover.pdf p9

"Aimee Challenor joined the Green Party on 11 December 2014"

"David Challenor joined the Green Party on 17 December 2015. Over the subsequent two and a half years, he gradually became more active in the party. As a party member, the first person who had a responsibility for drawing the charges to the Green Party’s attention was David Challenor himself. We found no evidence that he did so. He should have done."

Maybe the test is to bind their hands behind their back and toss them in the water?
If you sink you are a woman and if you float you are…

Hold on. That was the test to check who were witches.

How do these people know how to even hold a fork?

Wtf.
The more I read the worse it all gets

Thanks for this. I have been having a read.

Unless mistakes were made in the recollections or transcriptions, the timeline is this:

2014 - Aimee Challenor joins the Green Party
December 17th 2014 Aimee Challenor emails a friend informally saying that David Challenor is facing many serious allegations of sexual abuse. Nothing is done.
’late’ in 2015 the police interview the victim.
December 7th 2015 Aimee Challenor pens the letter about prisons that all the gullible desperados and mugs in the Green Party sign.
December 17th 2015 - the exact anniversary of the email Aimee Challenor sent regarding the allegations against him, David Challenor joins the Green Party.

I'm not sure if AC sent an email. I thought an email came in to the Greens from outside. But you have to read and re-read all the different bits of info and try to figure it out. It's not really clear

November 5th 2016 David Challenor is charged

Yes. It is weird that the 17 December comes up twice as well

Let's not forget how Scotland's prison service came up with a policy that was so generous at allowing trans-identifying male prisoners to be housed in the women's estate.

Here's a share token.

Sex offender helped set prison trans rules

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/99883ac4-f5ae-11e8-b7ef-da439ffb05ca?shareToken=b14428b1903d98ef2c987aedca44c6bd

"An official who agreed a policy allowing male-bodied sex offenders into women’s prisons was a sex offender who hoarded 22,000 indecent pictures of children.
...

Two years after approving the policy, Pike, 57, was arrested at prison service headquarters in Edinburgh. Searching his home, police found 45 discs containing 22,100 indecent images of children, including 500 of “penetrative sexual activity” with minors. He was convicted of possession of sexual images of children in a trial ending last year and remains on the sex offenders’ register.

The prison policy, which also covers healthcare, is being used by a transgender sex offender and murderer, Paris Green, to make a 900-mile round trip from her Edinburgh prison to Sussex for private gender reassignment surgery, funded by taxpayers.

Green is serving life after she and two accomplices sexually assaulted a man with a rolling pin, tied him up, tortured him and beat him to death."

Love how her wording implies there is a type of sexual predator TW that would absolutely be welcomed.

It's actually fucking laughable the hole digging which has occurred this week.

Ladies, help yourself to gin > passes round < I think we need it.

Ahhhh the good old days of womanhood centuries ago. When men were men and women were witches.

Hang on that was yesterday!

Thanks you so much both. Currently looking at James Morton’s contribution to C Burns’ Trans Britain and apparently “at the end of 2014, the Scottish Transgender Alliance was able to secure a one-off tranche of Visit Scotland funding to bring over a hundred trans activists from across England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland together with over a hundred trans activists from Scotland for a weekend-long ‘Conference of the Isles’ to share skills and knowledge.”

@turbonerd sorry, I told a lie, it wasn't yesterday. It was 3 days ago

RobinMoiraWhite · 24/01/2023 17:49

It’s a paradox for me. Through my working life I have tried to treat everyone properly, equally and fairly, no matter what their protected characteristic.

But the worst of you here treat trans people just as you would complain about men treating women historically.

A little bit of self-reflection and self-awareness goes a long way.

But I’m sure you will just keep stirring your cauldrons.

’Bye for now.I

🙄

"In 2015 I signed a letter calling for trans women to be housed in the female estate. But that does not include male sexual predators who falsely self ID to insert themselves into a space with vulnerable women

So if a male person genuinely believed that he was a woman, lived as a transwoman and genuinely self-IDed as one, and then committed sexually predatory crime, by Jenny Jones' standards it would be OK to house them in the female estate.

I can't decide whether Jenny Jones is a hypocrite or an idiot. Or a hypocritical idiot.

Green is serving life after she and two accomplices sexually assaulted a man with a rolling pin, tied him up, tortured him and beat him to death."

I've run out of words like "unbelievable." But it just defies any kind of sense, doesn't it? And the Sunday Times reported this four years ago. Where was the anger there?

wtf
again.
I’m just quoting to amplify the posts. To Get to know about this is so so important

POLLING HAS CLOSED THE VOTES HAVE BEEN COUNTED THE RESULT IS......

A TIE

HYPOCRITE AND IDIOT

This would be RMW who came onto a thread to intimidate a woman pleading with her local rape crisis service to provide one, solitary single sex group for women who can't attend mixed sex groups due to trauma? Isn't RMW part of the case?

But yeah, RMW has treated everyone 'properly, equally and fairly'. Aye, right.

I couldn't possibly comment as to the accuracy of your statement without someone trying to get my comment deleted.

Here James Morton is basically admitting it was a gateway to open up all single sex spaces.

@Boiledbeetle
I saw that! A few days after the fact because life intervened, but teipende that thread because someone’s irony-meter had Explorer and I wondered why.
Well, I nearly fell off my chair when I found out why. Gobsmacked but also laughed loudly because it is … mad, I guess.

And these hideous abusers that ResisterRex and others bring to light. They make General Grievous look positively cosy and fun - but THEY got to write these policies to ensure they and people of their ilk would have plentiful access to future victims should they be found out and put in jail.
It is just insidious beyond - a lot of things.

And the politicians who signed it off just - « oh but I didn’t mean those TW’s, those are not the right ones.»

HOW CAN YOU TELL?
You can’t.

Oh autocarrot. Why dost thou hate me so.
I re-opened a thread days later because life intervened.

Bears repeating that women do not treat transpeople like men have treated women in the past. Not by a nautical mile. Not even remotely close.

But how these TRA’s are treating women is almost even worse.
You need to #bekind whilst they remove your rights and hurt you and your children, and you need to cis yourself whilst they’re at it.

That is next level fuckery that is.

I agree.

The pictures of men competing against women was a "surely now" moment for me.

But this feels different. The Press are jumping in, except the BBC <looking at you PM and Question Time>.

Tories are on their knees. Labour are fully in with Genderwoo.

If the Conservatives manage to make this an issue they may chip away at Labour.

Interesting to watch - what ever brings it down I will take. The medical malpractice alone makes me so incredibly sad for young people.

Sweet JFC.

It's almost as if these special women forget they are women when they are talking to us with the thoughts formed in their manly misogynist brains isn't it?