Sturgeon has accused some opponents to her GRR Bill of being "homophobic and racist" as well as "transphobic"

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Twitter thread. Interview out shortly.

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'there are people who have opposed this bill that cloak themselves in women's rights to make it acceptable but just as they're transphobic you'll also find that they're deeply misogynist, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well'

tna = than

Damn it to Heck!

Are.....are you serious? I can't tell if you're joking or not....

Let's be very clear on this anyone who opposes her or disagrees with her gets a label as some sort of ist or ic don't they .

Grumpybutfunny:

'I do think this defending woman rights at the expense of the rights of transsexuals is wrong and transphobic. No one deserves special treatment why should women have secure single sex spaces if we don't legislate for trans spaces'

A few things that come to mind from your points above

What rights (not wants) do trans people not have that everyone else does?

If no one deserves special treatment, why does one section of the population get to change their birth certificate to create a legal fiction?

Third spaces have been suggested and rejected as being othering / outing even if it was a mixed sex space for those who didn't want or need to use a single sex space along with the people rejecting the reality of their biological sex

Women's single sex spaces were created for the safety, privacy and dignity of women. I daresay men also like having single sex spaces for privacy and dignity (the safety from attacks by women, not so pertinent, given that most men are bigger and stronger than most women)

Ah, so you want him to have the freedom to ignore women’s rights then, if he wants to pretend he’s a woman.

I see.

Nicola Sturgeon - First Minister of Misogyny, flinging shit like a desperate monkey because she knows more and more folk can see right through her and her despicable colleagues.

Get it right up ye!!!!

It's glorious to watch them squirm. Sturgeon thought she could use trans people as a means to force a clash with Westminster. It was the perfect strategy. Look to be progressive and on the right side of history knowing full well it clashed with UK equality law and would force Westminster to use S35. Then she gets to use that to whip up calls for further indy ref because not only is the UK over ruling Scottish law but they are being big meanies towards trans people, the most oppressed of all people.
If it wasn't for that pesky rapist, she would have got away with it.

Indeed.

Because when women don’t have secure single sex spaces, they get raped quite often.

Because when women don't have secure single sex spaces, men rape them quite often.

When men stop raping women, maybe we could do away safeguards like single sex spaces. Until then, no thanks.

She's right. I can't personally vouch for the 'purity' of motivation of everyone who happens to disagree with the GRR Bill in the same way she can't vouch for every Nationalist being a 'nice' person. To put forward this argument/accusation as some sort of defence, smacks of mere petulance though. Not very stateswoman like but, then again, she's just been caught out very badly and is fighting for her political life.

But rest assured Nicola, I'll be there fighting for buffer zones and to protect the rights of gay people and will challenge and question MSPs who don't.

If it wasn't for that pesky rapist, she would have got away with it.

Yep. Absolutely horrendous what happened but the timing was perfect and explains the issue in no uncertain terms.

Extinction burst.

That's quite the ahistorical take...

“It's time we desexualised ourselves the day a girl can walk down the street in a bikini when a man is topless will be the day we have equal rights.“

surely you mean we will have equal rights the day both women and men can walk down the street in a bikini 😂
I presume you mean “woman” when you refer to a “girl” wearing a bikini, just because you then mention “man” 😉, that’s a bit sexist and demeaning to refer to women as girls 😊

Hides joint behind back

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It’s actually refreshing to see someone admit their agenda. Anyone who suspects the efforts to break down societal norms and this usher in a “new utopia” is behind some of this, is told off for wearing a tin foil hat, but here you saying it outright. It will never happen, there’s not enough of you and it is ultimately completely unworkable - as we have seen over and over again, but goodness me it’s tiresome and often dangerous having to endure your flailing about trying to implement it.

We’re just bad people aren’t we, next week “TERFs caught sacrificing babies to the devil”????

honestly this woman by agreeing the trans woman rapist should be in a man’s prison (which is correct in the case of every trans woman) has basically said transwomen aren’t real women. When would an actual woman be in a man’s prison? Is this now on a case by case basis based on how grotesquely large his boobs are or how short his skirt is? How is she actually keeping a straight face, with mental gymnastics like she must be doing she should be in the Olympic squad

I've heard better debating skills from a 10 year old kid. Ran out of arguments so NS calls people names in the hope that it will pull them into line. Sadly, I think many people did recoil in the past when they were called a transphobe or a bigot, but as time goes on those words have less effect.

My view is:

• she adopted the policy to keep the greens onside
• she doesn't really believe it, but felt it appeals to the younger votes and she can frame it as progressive
• best of all, if the bill is really bad the Westminster will have to block it. Then she can say "I tried" to the greens and "bloody Westminster" to promote indyref2.

A pretty shrewd plan.....but she didn't factor in a certain someone deciding to find his authentic self at the crucial moment.

What's very scary to me is I think she might have got away with it if this case Gaby been perfectly timed...

Do you think she's like Boris deciding whether to support Brexit who wrote 2 articles with opposing views? Here's her other comment: there are people who support this bill that cloak themselves in trans rights to make it acceptable but just as they are misogynist you'll also find that they're deeply homophobic, often racist, possibly some of them have other ulterior motives as well.

Grumpybutfunny · Today 11:56
I do think this defending woman rights at the expense of the rights of transsexuals is wrong and transphobic. No one deserves special treatment why should women have secure single sex spaces if we don't legislate for trans spaces

I think what you say is mysogenistic.
Woman are 50% of the population
but commit only about 4% of crimes.
Women’s crimes are far less likely to be violent than men’s.

Men as a class commit 96% of crimes. Men who believe they are women are of the class ‘men’. Their offending patterns are the same as ordinary men’s or possibly higher.

Men who believe, or say, they are women should have their own safe space in a mens prison, as should other vulnerable men - gay men, young men, old men, disabled men.

Women in prison are among the most marginalised in our society and deserve safety and dignity. It is an outrage that other people, who ought to know better, are deciding their boundaries.

Defending women’s rights has nothing to do with men who think they are women.

They are a separate groups. They need their own separate spaces.

If saying that is transphobic, then transphobia is meaningless and it is time to totally ignore that accusation in this context.

We see it on here over and over - as soon as someone realises their arguments hold no water; they start throwing ad homs at the other side.

It's a pretty clear indicator of having lost an argument.

No one deserves special treatment
Except males who want access to female only spaces?

Considering no one should be in prison

OK we'll just blindfold the really bad ones and push then off the top of a building.