India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be

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India has stated this on Twitter.

Doesn't it tell us a lot about how genderism rests on social stereotypes? How is India 'more of a woman' than someone born female?

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1617183552101048321?t=qgFTj7AwwiPi9tSKSyRsYQ&s=19

The idiom is used to express a general encounter or meeting with someone, especially when it was not expected
Why would it not be expected? Unless you only ever expect to encounter an echo chamber of views in here

I'm starting to become quite scared of these people pushing their agenda on women and expecting the masses to accept their claims.
I'm scared I will say the wrong thing and land myself in trouble.
At work, at the school, when chatting with friends and colleagues, I worried I will not use their 'language' and 'misgender' someone or say something others find offensive.
It seems like having an opinion on puberty blockers and transitions in children or even promoting women's rights and protection our space is seen as being bigoted and anti- trans.
I feel like it's walking on eggshells in all aspects of this subject.
I shouldn't have to feel this way and have my identity as a mother/ woman and biological need to protect my children completely invalidated.

There goes India mansplaining again.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise you made appointments to post.

I just drop in and out as I fancy, without prearranging it. Is there a Google Calendar that we should be booking ourselves on in advance, so that other mumsnetters can anticipate us?

No-one told me, so I never knew who was going to appear on a thread until they'd posted. Sorry for doing it all so wrong! <wipes sweat from brow>

Now that we know, please supply your planned posting schedule for the week ahead, so we know to expect you.

I shouldn't have to feel this way and have my identity as a mother/ woman and biological need to protect my children completely invalidated
I honestly don't get this though - as a mother, woman and with a biological need to protect my children too, how is being inclusive of trans people taking away anything away from my "validation"?!
I'm still a woman and always will be, regardless of stances on anyone who is trans

I'm sorry, I didn't realise you made appointments to post
What's that referring to? I haven't said that at all, so why are you quoting me like I have, think you've misunderstood my comment somewhere?!

It's referring to you. Read your own post back, and I think you'll get it.

I just drop in and out as I fancy, without prearranging it
So do I, not an actual clue what your post is going on about, sorry as if you're thinking we can drop in and out as we fancy I'm in complete agreement

I didn't say being inclusive of trans people makes me feel this way, it's the need to put trans peoples 'needs' above the needs of biological women and an agenda that pushes ( without question) its views and ideology upon children and even encourages children who are finding their sexual identity hard to navigate to consider transitioning and actively encourages the use of irreversible treatments before children are probably capable of really understanding the physical and mental impact.

You should have had mine I sent it via PM you never check them do you!

I'm at the dentist again in Thursday morning,

I don't make appointments to post, and I have read my post back and you seem to be completely misunderstanding it (purposefully, accidentally, who knows anymore?!)

In Belgium this year there was a big announcement that for the first time ever the federal government was 50/50 men and women: First time so many women ministers. Big celebration for women's rights. Only it wasn't. It was 11 men, one claiming to be a woman, and 9 women. I don't know how to explain to someone like you how this is not only incredibly insulting but demeaning the history of women and just incredibly disrespectful for every single suffragette and feminist from the past. It invalidates and erases our history of oppression. It invalidates feminism and the great strides we made. It invalidates our own class in law, in society and culturally. How do you not get this? HOW??

IW is still a man though.

Deleting this comment won't make it less of a fact

Are we being deleted for stating IW is a biological man? (Which is she is). Christ.

Um don't you have to be a man to be a legal woman with a GRC? Women don't need a GRC to be a woman... they need one to become a legal man. You actually have to have a sex for the grc to apply?

Well if self id is brought in I might be tempted to give it a go!

If I self id into the sex that I actually am, then I can be at the top of the hierarchy in my sex class.

I can then be used as a comparator for discrimination.

So we are letting this GRC holder use the single sex space so we are not discriminating against GRC holders.......

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Um don't you have to be a man to be a legal woman with a GRC? Women don't need a GRC to be a woman... they need one to become a legal man. You actually have to have a sex for the grc to apply?

Well if self id is brought in I might be tempted to give it a go!

If I self id into the sex that I actually am, then I can be at the top of the hierarchy in my sex class.

I can then be used as a comparator for discrimination.

So we are letting this GRC holder use the single sex space so we are not discriminating against GRC holders.......

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Sorry quotes wrong post- I'm so tired.
Apologies x

I feel desperately sorry for India, loathsome as India is. I think they are terribly, terribly unhappy. It must be a kind of hell, screaming into the void at people every day that you are a woman when they know you are not and deep down you do too. I wonder what India’s children must think of their father.

India’s male entitlement coming through once again

India is best ignored

But are you a woman? How do you know? If IW is a woman then being a woman isn't down to biology. Apparently being a birthing parent doesn't make you a woman. Maybe you say you're a woman because you've thought about it and you 'feel' like a woman. I'm waiting to hear what this feeling is.

Alternatively we could go back to the original biological definition of woman, agree that IW is a transwoman ( which by definition means you have to be a man) and those of us who really have a cervix are women without having to analyse our feelings.

They're not the messiah, they're a very naughty boy

I'm sorry but you're answering a different post to what was written here.

And if you can t see that there is a major problem with the fact that women, mothers, parents are being prevented from speaking out where they have safeguarding concerns directly as a result of 'being inclusive of trans people'. That there is absolutely no way to raise these issues without being told you are transphobic, a bigot, need to be educated, or that you just plain have no right to do so in law etc.

This is not a situation those of us with safeguarding concerns created. I can repeat that my concern is not on the basis of men being trans but on the basis of men being men until I'm blue in the face. I am not advocating we treat men who are trans identified any differently to the rest of their sex class. I am arguing that I want no bio men, however they identify, in my daughters' and my singe sex spaces and sports.

It has been made impossible in some circumstances for people to mention where they feel uncomfortable, or where they have concerns, or to point out where they think a safeguarding risk or loophole may be happening. No one should support a situation that makes people afraid to put there hand up and speak up for children and vulnerable people.

I totally agree. All this affirmation is cruel because it leads people to an inevitable crisis when they face reality. Those who think a gender critical view point is somehow about hating trans people are very much mistaken. I hate the violent misogyny but I also worry a great deal about the people being broken by believing they can be something they're not. Gender ideology destroys minds and bodies.