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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

OJ has a special message for us…

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Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 13:14

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1616008459958231040/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1616008459958231040&currentTweetUser=OwenJones84

Gave me a laugh over my coffee anyway 😆 does he remind anyone else of arguments with their little brother? ‘You’re going to lose. Why are you hitting yourself’ etc 😂

Interesting he has never ever once engaged with any of the thousands of points as to why gender ideology is indefensible at best and harmful at worst, it’s always just ‘You’re going to lose… tiny minority… section 28’

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Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 16:53

He's not to everyone's taste, but as long as it's not on the tele when a kid is watching its a mediocre song with and entertaining video. Apart from the bottle throwing

Why are people going nuts?

mrshoho · 31/01/2023 16:57

I know we've had far more raunchy videos over the time. I'm wondering about the timing and whether it was hyped up to deflect from the real story in Scotland?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 17:02

mrshoho · 31/01/2023 16:57

I know we've had far more raunchy videos over the time. I'm wondering about the timing and whether it was hyped up to deflect from the real story in Scotland?

I was having Adam and the ants Prince charming flash backs. Infinitely superior even after all these years.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=9p__WmyAE3g

mrshoho · 31/01/2023 17:30

In another league @Boiledbeetle . Pure class.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 17:32

And we are apparently old bigoted Terfs who just don't understand gender fluidity!

ScrollingLeaves · 31/01/2023 18:01

This is a Parliamentary petition to update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic ‘sex ‘ is biological sex. Please consider signing it if you haven’t already.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Datun · 31/01/2023 18:47

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 16:53

He's not to everyone's taste, but as long as it's not on the tele when a kid is watching its a mediocre song with and entertaining video. Apart from the bottle throwing

Why are people going nuts?

He's drinking golden showers?

Datun · 31/01/2023 18:49

Or if not drinking them, having them splashed on his face, apparently. I only glanced at it, in my defence.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:22

Datun · 31/01/2023 18:49

Or if not drinking them, having them splashed on his face, apparently. I only glanced at it, in my defence.

I chose to think that was just my dirty mind coming to that conclusion.. Ughhh

Rubidium · 31/01/2023 19:44

Sam Smith? Meh.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood did it much better nearly 40 years ago.

mrshoho · 31/01/2023 20:02

Rubidium · 31/01/2023 19:44

Sam Smith? Meh.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood did it much better nearly 40 years ago.

Oh hell yea! 1980's is my happy place.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 20:12

mrshoho · 31/01/2023 20:02

Oh hell yea! 1980's is my happy place.

Ahhh me singing "relax don't do it when you want to come"

No clue as to what that actually meant!

EndlessTea · 31/01/2023 20:18

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 20:12

Ahhh me singing "relax don't do it when you want to come"

No clue as to what that actually meant!

It went over my head too. That video removes any ambiguity in the lyrics, and the section from 2.31 is more seedy and shocking than anything in SS’s video. 😮

mrshoho · 31/01/2023 20:34

And then they gifted the world this beauty.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 20:36

EndlessTea · 31/01/2023 20:18

It went over my head too. That video removes any ambiguity in the lyrics, and the section from 2.31 is more seedy and shocking than anything in SS’s video. 😮

I was never allowed to watch the video at the time. So i didn't actually see it until a few years ago! I was shocked 😲

Rubidium · 31/01/2023 20:36

I remember seeing the Frankie ‘Relax’ video on The Tube on Channel 4 when I was 12 or 13, and even after Mike Read had helpfully pointed out what the song was about, it went completely over my head. It was only when I saw it again 5 or 10 years later that I realised what was going on...

The Sam Smith video looks a bit, um, sanitised in comparison with the Frankie one, doesn’t it?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 20:37

Rubidium · 31/01/2023 20:36

I remember seeing the Frankie ‘Relax’ video on The Tube on Channel 4 when I was 12 or 13, and even after Mike Read had helpfully pointed out what the song was about, it went completely over my head. It was only when I saw it again 5 or 10 years later that I realised what was going on...

The Sam Smith video looks a bit, um, sanitised in comparison with the Frankie one, doesn’t it?

So has Sam done anything in this video someone didn't do in the 80s?

Rubidium · 31/01/2023 20:49

So has Sam done anything in this video someone didn't do in the 80s?

Don’t think so. Here’s some prime time BBC1 from 1984 for comparison:

I’m sure I remember some berk like Juno Dawson state, with absolute conviction, that there was no gay culture in the eighties 🙄
mrshoho · 31/01/2023 20:50

No he hasn't. It's a mediocre song with a tasteless video that appears to have been released to an orchestrated hype. I see him as trying too hard to be youneek.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 20:58

Rubidium · 31/01/2023 20:49

So has Sam done anything in this video someone didn't do in the 80s?

Don’t think so. Here’s some prime time BBC1 from 1984 for comparison:

I’m sure I remember some berk like Juno Dawson state, with absolute conviction, that there was no gay culture in the eighties 🙄

You weren't man enough to satisfy me!

Id forgotten about this one completely!

Seriously our youth was bloody amazing anything went. We haven't changed.

Anything still goes. You just don't need to change your bloody sex marker to do it!

None of these men had an issue with being men and doing what they liked!

SinnerBoy · 01/02/2023 13:48

I remember "Relax" on Top of the Pops, I was 11. My nan said,

"Eee, that poor lad, worra aal them Hells Angels ganna dee tiv'im?"

Rubidium · 06/02/2023 19:46

Oh Guardian Guardian. You are exceeding yourselves.

“Women in the UK: share your experience of being subjected to online misogyny”

twitter.com/guardian/status/1622617742758092800

I wondered why Owen Jones was trending.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 06/02/2023 19:51

Thats really funny rubidium

ResisterRex · 06/02/2023 19:56

Presumably a covert GC got access to their account 😂

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/02/2023 19:56

Such funny responses Grin