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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Maggie Chapman, Scottish Greens, wants 6 year olds to be able to change gender

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DerekFaker · 14/01/2023 21:24

I have no words really. She's a zealot.

Video in tweet:

twitter.com/tweetmentcentre/status/1614251161023922176?t=Co9SDuiPVQMvzuoLyQlhfA&s=19

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DerekFaker · 17/01/2023 06:54

Maggie was on LBC yesterday making an absolute show of herself (video in linked tweet):

twitter.com/LBC/status/1615042633096695825?t=lXJrBywlsr_QhvEjykUPWw&s=19

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DerekFaker · 17/01/2023 07:00

Longer one here. She's full on TRA with "Have you ever had your chromosomes tested though? How do you know?"

twitter.com/TomSwarbrick1/status/1615059702802485260?t=XJAqXHBzfB_PQXBFchG5MQ&s=19

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BabyStopCryin · 17/01/2023 07:04

Whilst my is she so deep into this? I wonder when/how it took hold with her.

DerekFaker · 17/01/2023 07:51

Sorry to keep posting bits and pieces of video. I can't find the whole thing.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1615045382999838730?t=m66I3Mhtg_wFrBzi9RPXrg&s=19

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onyttig · 17/01/2023 07:57

Abhannmor · 16/01/2023 23:25

She is genuinely scary. Because I don't think she is a grifter or just playing party politics over this.

She's a real true believer in something utterly insane.

I’m convinced that she fervently believes this and sees her ideas as The One True Right Way.

(incidentally, I used to know her a bit before her political career. She was a bloody nightmare, even long before she was in a position to influence the lives of millions of people)

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 08:27

I find her and the others who spout this shite disturbing. I'm suspicious of their true intentions as I can't believe these educated people can be this stupid.

Like many others have said, of all the issues facing the Scottish people why has this one has become the Hill they are prepared to die on? Why not tackle the nations health, child poverty, drug use?

IncompleteSenten · 17/01/2023 08:36

Fucking hell.
When my kids were that age they wanted to be all sorts of things from animals to vehicles.

People are hijacking young children's play and imaginations to push some batcrap crazy agenda. It's terrifying.

What is lurking behind all this focus on young children's identity and sexuality and gender and genitals is actually very sinister and one day there will be hell to pay.

ScrollingLeaves · 17/01/2023 09:01

IncompleteSenten · Today 08:36

Fucking hell.
When my kids were that age they wanted to be all sorts of things from animals to vehicles
.

People are hijacking young children's play and imaginations to push some batcrap crazy agenda. It's terrifying.

What is lurking behind all this focus on young children's identity and sexuality and gender and genitals is actually very sinister and one day there will be hell to pay.

I agree it is hijacking of children’s minds just when they are at the most imaginative phase of their lives. Then there are some parents who promote this too.

This ideology has found it way into every institution from education, including at primary schools.

In case anyone has not seen it, this is a petition against teaching gender identity ideology to children on their RSE lessons at school. It closes on the 18th. Unfortunately it got missed until just a short time ago, though it has had a huge number of signatures since then.
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petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618970

OldCrone · 17/01/2023 09:07

toomanytrees · 17/01/2023 00:45

I googled the Scottish electoral system and couldn't figure out the list system. Scottish people must be geniuses to understand this!

Question for those in Scotland. When you write to your MSP, do you also write to a list MSP? Would Maggie Chapman get any letters or is she mostly unaccountable to the electorate?

More people can write to a regional MSP than a constituency MSP as they represent an entire region rather than a single constituency. Whether she reads those letters and takes any notice is another matter.

Abhannmor · 17/01/2023 09:21

Waitwhat23 · 17/01/2023 01:36

So for my area, I have -
1 constituency MSP who is elected under the fptp system.
7 regional (list) MSP's who are elected through the proportional representation system.
1 MP for my region

I can write to any of these and have done for various issues, including the GRR.

Maggie Chapman is a list MSP for the North East Scotland Parliament region so anyone in that electoral region can write to her. You generally have to be a constituent of their area in order for MSP's to deal with your enquiry unless you are writing to an MSP who is a Minister of something (I think).

We have PR here in Ireland, Single Transferable Vote. Multi member seats. No silly list system.

Trouble with the list is you are flying blind - they could impose any idiot on you. I have 3 members in my constituency and believe me they are fully accountable . I'm annoying one now about buses actually.

Not101 · 17/01/2023 09:26

Is MC autistic?

OldCrone · 17/01/2023 09:38

Abhannmor · 17/01/2023 09:21

We have PR here in Ireland, Single Transferable Vote. Multi member seats. No silly list system.

Trouble with the list is you are flying blind - they could impose any idiot on you. I have 3 members in my constituency and believe me they are fully accountable . I'm annoying one now about buses actually.

We have the same system as Scotland here in Wales. The parties name the candidates for the list before the election and the names are on the ballot paper. What makes you think the list MSPs aren't accountable?

Tratjymp · 17/01/2023 09:40

Not101 · 17/01/2023 09:26

Is MC autistic?

Would it matter?

Not101 · 17/01/2023 09:44

@Tratjymp, of course, it would largely explain the stance on gender conformity and trans ideology.

clarrylove · 17/01/2023 11:17

My 6yr old vehemently wanted to be a parsnip! She's crackers!!

Myotherpetisamouse · 17/01/2023 11:28

These people need to be voted out at the next election.
What’s going on now will affect all of those with young children or planning children in the future. It’s perverse and it’s criminal.
I’ve expressed my concerns to my own young adult children but they often just don’t get it- until you give examples.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 17/01/2023 11:36

I think women like this just hate a lot of things and people. Starting with themselves, of course.

onyttig · 17/01/2023 11:42

Myotherpetisamouse · 17/01/2023 11:28

These people need to be voted out at the next election.
What’s going on now will affect all of those with young children or planning children in the future. It’s perverse and it’s criminal.
I’ve expressed my concerns to my own young adult children but they often just don’t get it- until you give examples.

sadly, not voting for a party in any significant numbers does not prevent them from amassing enormous power and influence through coalition. Coalition building allows a party that got only 8.1% of the vote (and won no constituency seats at all) to dictate policy in this way.

The extremist views of the Scottish greens very clearly do not represent anything but a minority of Scottish voters. But there’s no reason to think that a future SNP leader won’t happily give them power far beyond what they gained through legitimate democratic processes have again. Because they’re more interested in securing their own power than democratically representing the Scottish people.

DevilinaCardigan · 17/01/2023 11:46

Earlier today I was reading about that horrific case in America where a six year old shot a teacher. The child is (rightly) being held in a mental facility instead of jail. If a 6 year old can consent to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, should they be treated as an adult by the legal system?

I know I'm mixing countries and legal systems, but I don't think a 6 year old should be making choices about their gender, what medicines they should take, or be held legally responsible for their actions (of course they should receive as much mental health support as they need).

I was also thinking about puberty blockers and severely disabled children. Could parents put their disable child (who can't consent or has been pushed to consent) on puberty blockers indefinitely so that they don't have to deal with the child going through puberty and the struggles that can bring?

Cheekymaw · 17/01/2023 11:50

Just catching up with this. MC is an absolute heid banger. How the feck did she get in a position of power? When ma weans were 6 ,they wanted to be 1) rockets 2) Thunderbirds 3) Princess Leia 4) various fancy decorated cakes.
Honestly, this is so creepy. What is with her ? Is she just woker than woke or am I missing something?

ScrollingLeaves · 17/01/2023 17:39

Thinking about her views about six year olds, many of our schools are encouraging confusion in children by planting ideas that they may have an inner gender identity at odds with their body if they do not conform to stereotypes of masculine and feminine. This can happen through their RSE lessons in schools which are outsourced to providers. The pushing of ideas of gender identity may be subtle or more overt.

The Tate for example has recently drawn attention for providing a school resource that is steeped in gender identity ideology, as well as offering Drag Queen Story Time with Aida H Dee.
Petition
www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-gender-propaganda-at-Tate

The poster screen shot below which is from a school resource on the wall of a primary school shows a deliberate conflation and confusion with sex and gender and effectively removes ‘sex’ from the nine protected characteristics of the Equality Act ( although the poster does not mention the EA).

Remove references to 'gender identity' from relationships education guidance

Since 2020 the DfE has published guidance for relationships and sex education. This says "Pupils should be taught the facts and the law about sex, sexuality, sexual health and gender identity in an age-appropriate and inclusive way". Gender identity is a social construct, and not recognised in law.

There's no evidence that we're born with a ‘gender identity’, and we do not believe that schools should be teaching children about this concept. We also believe that teaching school children about gender identity is inconsistent with the Education Act (section 406), which prohibits 'political indoctrination'. The Government should remove all references to 'gender identity' from guidance on relationships and sex education

To sign and share the petition against teaching ‘gender identity’ to children in their RSE lessons in schools:
⬇️
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618970

Maggie Chapman, Scottish Greens, wants 6 year olds to be able to change gender
Maggie Chapman, Scottish Greens, wants 6 year olds to be able to change gender
DerekFaker · 19/01/2023 08:30

Just a reminder of Maggie's trans friend Beth, who was in the Green's gallery when they were voting on the legislation, and whom she was cozying up to in the pub afterwards.

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mrshoho · 19/01/2023 08:44

DerekFaker · 19/01/2023 08:30

Just a reminder of Maggie's trans friend Beth, who was in the Green's gallery when they were voting on the legislation, and whom she was cozying up to in the pub afterwards.

Omg!

BlackForestCake · 19/01/2023 10:30

I wouldn’t write to Chapman about anything in case my details got passed on to Beth.

She is an absolute lunatic and the only way to get rid of her is to not give the Scottish Greens a single vote.

Whatwouldscullydo · 19/01/2023 10:49

This won't be because she cares abjutsix year olds.

This will be because 6 year olds are in a situation where it won't make a difference.

Kidd at primary at that age chahge together. In infants its nore likely facilities are mixed. They do pe together. Most will still be using public toilets with their parents and having their parents help them get dressed in cubicles at the pool/gymnastics etc

The dilemmas we all talk about don't really exist at age 6.

So this all gives more ability to say " well see nothing happens. More people that allow statistics to be diluted and trivialised what happen when kids get older.

These 6 year olds are simply fir adults ti hide behind its not about caring

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