Please help! Gender not sex on a school 'protected characteristics' poster, just spoken to the Head!

[Vebrithien]

Good morning,

I started this thread before Christmas

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4684558-today-i-found-my-bravery?page=1

The overview is that my DD's primary school is displaying posters by No Outsiders, which are supposed to show the 9 protected characteristics, but shows gender, not sex.

The (male) deputy head I mentioned it to, before Christmas, has not got back to me. The posters are still there.

I summoned up my courage this morning, and spoke to the Headteacher. She seemed surprised, as I said I'd already mentioned it to one deputy head, and that I'd picked up on it due to my school expecting Ofsted, and reissuing our equality training.

The Head said that it was surprising, as No Outsiders were an organisation whose specialism was equalities.

I replied that the EA2010 says sex, not gender. I also mentioned that there were some concerning resources produced by them, including an assembly where a dad wants to offer violence to children who do not accept his trans child. (I know no more than this)

The Head is going to talk to her other deputy head, whose responsibility this is, and to try to put us in contact.

Where do I do from here?

Can any one help me with evidence? What particularly is dodgy about No Outsiders?

Is there anything that states that schools mustn't misrepresent the EA?

Is there any DofE (or whatever it's called now) guidance for schools on the resources they used or how they represent the EA?

And, how should I go about finding out if the school uses other No Outsiders resources?

Please help, I want as much evidence as I can.

Still shaking with adrenaline from speaking to the Head!

Make-up tips, lifeturnsonadime?

No it can only be a win-win if women stand to benefit from males in single sex prisons.

We were assured that there was data about this, but sadly none has materialised!

Not if we get the risk assessment right.

risk assessment being a fundamental part of penal practice.

it can be a win-win.

So do that for Transwomen in the Male prisions then. No need to put them in female prisons.

people matter. it’s funny gender matters so much you’as you decry those who are redefining gender norms

What's doubly amazing is that the claims being made in the non-existent data have moved on from "net win" to "win-win". The pace of progress here is astounding.

Again that could all done in the male estate. There is zero reason for placing any male in the female estate.

Why is that so hard to understand?

But they are psychologically women so it’s humane to put them in women’s prisons

'psychologically women' - what does that involve?

lol. That must be it!

Or have I forgotten that women must always benefit from the inclusion of males, we must feel happier knowing we've bowed down and included males. All the happy feelz we must have for the inclusion of the 'oppressed' minority.

bigly wins

you decry those who are redefining gender norms

How are they doing that, when they base their interpretation of what a woman is on regressive sex stereotypes?

Because most trans women don’t assault anyone in prison. So why layer on the added cruelty of putting them in a prison in which they don’t psychologically ‘fit’

Sex. Sex matters.

And gender norm? What's happening is that sexist stereotypes are being concreted in the name of gender ideology.

Wanna be a girl? Wear pink, giggle, tilt your head and get a job as a ln ambassador for Tampax!

Younger transsexuals increasingly don’t do that

Oh go away.

You are just being ineffably stupid now!

But they are psychologically women so it’s humane to put them in women’s prisons

Again, what constitutes a "trans woman", as a male?

But they are psychologically women so it’s humane to put them in women’s prisons

How can one be psychologically women?

So using your logic, transmen should be in the Male estate?

Because most trans women don’t assault anyone in prison

But some do rape women in women's prisons.

Most men don't assault or rape women either but they are kept out of women's prisons.

What's the difference?

Why?

Please do furnish an answer.

Younger transsexuals increasingly don’t do that

What is a "transsexual"?

But they are psychologically women so it’s humane to put them in women’s prisons

.. with male bodies, whether or not they have had surgeries to appear more feminine

So it's inhumane for the women who are locked up to be forced to share their spaces with men who believe themselves to be women (they are not and can never be)

Most men don't assault menin prisons.

So why add a layer of cruelty to woman by locking them in a cell with men who sexually assault them?

Just one is too many.

Receipts please.

'psychologically women' - what does that involve?

Clearly doesn't affect behaviour, whatever it is.

Empirically, we can tell "gender identity" as described does not exist from the fact that in the trans population, every sex-correlated thing continues to proceed according to sex.

If there's a violent offender, >90% chance he's male. And that remains true in the trans population. So it's entirely unsurprising that the first executed trans person the other day in the US was a "transwoman".

(If anyone is aware of any sex-correlated thing actually swapping in the trans population, let me know.)