We all knew it was coming... 'Trans-Age' is here

[BlessedKali]

I've seen some posts on Twitter from profiles claiming to be 'Trans-Age' i.e they identify with a different age...

transage.carrd.co/#faq

''Transage is an umbrella term referring to those whose age identity does not align with their chronological age. It's a label that encompasses a wide range of experiences. It includes those who identify as older than their chronological age, those who identify as younger than their chronological age, and even those who are outside of the age-binary (such as agen't or xenoage individuals).''

I once went to a party as the Eiffel Tower.

Now that's commitment to an identity. Hand me my French passport cet instant, s'il vous plaît.

I once went to a party as Demis Roussos. No need to change my identity though as I'm starting to look more and more like him every day.

I work with a trans person, and whilst I can’t honestly say I fully understand some of the aims of the whole movement or even agree with it all, I do try to keep an open mind as long as it’s not causing harm to anyone. However I agree that this trans-age concept is potentially a worrying step towards some kind of normalisation of pedophilia. “I may be a 50yr old man but that 12yr old child identifies as 18 so you’re encroaching on their civil rights and freedom of identity by preventing them from dating me!”.

Like biology, age is a fact - not a subjective opinion. Identity is malleable, but facts aren’t. Someone can pretend to be something else all they want if it makes them happy, and there should certainly be more of a social and cultural acceptance of that so that there’s less stigmatisation, but under no circumstances should there be any changes in law or legal policy based on pretences of a minority group - especially if it involves children and those who aren’t mature enough to make these decisions.

Like biology, age is a fact - not a subjective opinion. Identity is malleable, but facts aren’t. Someone can pretend to be something else all they want if it makes them happy, and there should certainly be more of a social and cultural acceptance of that so that there’s less stigmatisation, but under no circumstances should there be any changes in law or legal policy based on pretences of a minority group - especially if it involves children and those who aren’t mature enough to make these decisions.

100%.

Someone can pretend to be something else all they want if it makes them happy, and there should certainly be more of a social and cultural acceptance of that so that there’s less stigmatisation

But there are fundamental problems with that, as we’re now seeing. It’s human nature to be suspicious or uncomfortable around someone who is pretending to be something they’re not. Deception and disguise is often central to committing crime and harming others, so that’s understandable.

Appropriating another person’s actual real identity is offensive at best, and in many cases dangerous if we take it seriously - eg male sex offenders identifying into women’s spaces. Are we supposed to be kind to people faking being police, doctors, surgeons etc.? Is it fine to pretend to be black, disabled or a child if you’re not, and we should reduce the “stigma” - really? Why is it so bad for there to be a stigma about faking being what you’re not?

Goddammit.

The general public are only just getting their heads around 'lived experience', and now they are going to have to get their heads around middle aged men announcing 'I don't know about laws, taxes, boundaries, how can I, I identify as 6? Bigots the lot of you, how can you expect me to fill out forms I can't write yet. Money, I have no concept of that so how can you take maintenance out of my pay?'

We all know it's going to be men, right?

Anyhow, does anyone remember the Neville Southall Adult Baby Takeover? I used to have all the screenshots.

I look like the back end of one, so that's a start.

What that article doesn't say is that Steph-on-knee was in a sexual relationship with the 'adopted daddy' whilst being allowed to play with his children.

He went on and on about how the dad made him feel soooo female while they were having sex. Utter perv.

Plus - at one point he was a trans advisor to the Canadian government.

The complete refusal to see any sexual motive to any of this is extraordinary.

😂🤣 you and me both!!

I work with a trans person, and whilst I can’t honestly say I fully understand some of the aims of the whole movement or even agree with it all, I do try to keep an open mind as long as it’s not causing harm to anyone.

I've worked with many trans people over the years before I retired. Since the 80s.

One prominent one however came into work, on his day off, dressed as Little Bo Peep, with frilly knickers the lot, onto a site which was open to the public and which had school kids visiting every day.

What is a bunch of 5 year old girls going to think, say, do when they encounter him in the ladies toilets? Why should they have to have this as part of their lived experience? It causes harm because it involves people in their fetish that have not consented. The reaction IS the fetish.

Yes please.
If the govt is going to let men say they are women & let them do things like take womens jobs, enter womens spaces etc.., then I am going to identify as being pension age effective immediately.

The Govt will of course be perfectly happy to let me claim my pension starting now.
Actually, I may have become pension age about 2 decades ago, so they owe me the money for all those years I didn't get my pension.

It's exactly the same, it's just another part of the trans umbrella of entitlement.

I FEEL like I'm really old & should be a pensioner, so the whole country can just budge up & let me have my privileges.

I suspect I will rapidly be followed by every single person who is on UC who has been sanctioned as it will release them from all work obligations.

Next year though, I might want to do a couple of GCSEs, so I'm thinking of identifying as 14-15, so I hope they have provided me with a space at a state school.
I'll just be a teen, it won't be my responsibility.

My parents are dead so they'll be out of luck if they think they'll support me, so I guess I will have to be taken into care as a child without family to pay for me.
Social work will just have to budge up & make room to take care of all my living expenses.

Just for you 😃
(SS of a SS so hope it's readable)

My understanding of this transage

A 55 year old man , identifies as a 5 year old. A incontinent 5 year old.
Wears nappies etc even though physically able.
If this man is admitted into hospital, where would he be placed? On an adult ward which would be against his 'human rights' or on a paediatric ward which affirms his trans identity?

I've thought of this a lot especially with the bollocks in Scotland.

Well we all know what this is really about, but my suggestion to show it up for how insane it is is join in.

I'm personally going to Scotland soon and I plan to identify as living there and change my gender. Then I'll come home after my hol and if its possible identify as a pensioner, claim my pension and still work. Hopefully I'll be quids in, fuck this cost of living malarky, just hope it's in time to collect the winter fuel allowance.

Then when I've got enough money stashed away I'll identify as a neet and hopefully get some free college courses to improve my prospects.

Then if it's still a thing I'll think of another way to game this .

Just a quick update on

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4688427-repeal-the-gra

We've broken 10,000🍾and Harrow East has fallen 🍾

Just Ilford South holding out.

On thread, so you can change your name, sex, dob on your birth certificate. I hope they're filling them in in pencil.

The idea of being younger than one's chronological age is a fetish involving care giving as to an infant. The paraphilia is autonepiophilia and is defined as being sexually aroused by being treated as an infant to the extent of drinking from a baby bottle, wearing nappies, playing in a playpen, sleeping in a cot. It is mentioned as a paraphilia in JKR's Troubled Blood (one of a number of paraphilias mentioned in the book which also includes a demolition of the sex work is work argument - reasons, I think, why this novel is so reviled by TRAs and intersectional feminists). The fetish is fairly innocuous.What is not innocuous is that this particular fetish could be used as an excuse/reason for lowering the age of consent as PIE wanted in the 70s, on the grounds that age is a subjective matter, not material reality.

The fetish is fairly innocuous.

Not when they start making laws based around having to facilitate these fetishes, they aren't! That's what the problem is.

The fetish is fairly innocuous.What is not innocuous is that this particular fetish could be used as an excuse/reason for lowering the age of consent as PIE wanted in the 70s, on the grounds that age is a subjective matter, not material reality.

I agree the paedophilia aspect is a huge issue, but I also don't think the fetish is innocuous unless it's done completely in private and not made anyone else's business except those who want to be involved. No prison, hospital or care worker for example should be expected to engage in it, e.g. changing someone's dirty nappy because of how they "identify", when that's not physically necessary. That's making them perform and join in with the fetish for someone else's sexual gratification and no one should have to do that in their job.

What would be the point of an innocuous fetish? Fetishes are meant to excite and thrill, not be boring.

What will happen when actual reality is no longer a thing and anybody can identify as whatever they want to - be it the opposite sex, a different race, a child, a wealthy person, a non-lawbreaker (in spite of having done lots of crimes), a professor, a lawyer, a Gas Safe engineer (though never having trained), a horse, a dolphin, Noddy Holder, Liz Hurley, king/queen, a bungalow, a Nissan Qashqai etc. - and it is then up to society to adapt and facilitate your new identity?

If asked this, people who identify as transgender will most probably deflect the question by saying "You're just being ridiculous now" - but it's all thoroughly logical steps on the same stairway, if we initially accept that the stairway exists in reality. And once somebody has been legally allowed and affirmed to start climbing that stairway, how can they possibly then switch to 'bigot' mode and say that it's OK for them, but that other people a few steps higher should not be allowed to identify as whoever/whatever they wish to?

Eugh. Didn’t know that. It’s made me feel a bit sick to the stomach tbh

Indeed. I'm 55 and might be described as 'mutton dressed as lamb' However tis preferable to being mutton dressed as mutton. Although .... looks like I can identify out of being mutton anyway. And now I'm lamb again 😯

Trans-species? Do keep up, we already have xenogenders such as catgender and wolfgender

I will also be identifying as dragongender. Crafty, persuasive, acquisitive and flaming dangerous.

Exactly. A baby fetish is thrilling due to the transgressive nature of having sex as a 'baby'. It sexualises childhood and babyhood.

Fetishes cant be legislated out of existence, but they can be acknowledged for the violation of social boundaries involved. Certainly if one is supposed to 'recognise' them as anything other than a fetish which shouldn't be public in any way.

Transactivists have successfully made the sexual nature of a lot of transition something that cannot be spoken about. Even when it's perfectly bloody obvious.

All this drivel about age dysphoria would appear to be an attempt at the same thing.

Never mind identifying as older to claim your state pension early yourself; can I identify as still alive for decades after I've actually died so that my descendants can continue to benefit from my pension for several generations?

Paying pensions to people once they turn 18 (but identify as 70) for the rest of their (extended) 'lives' - another 250 years or so, maybe - can't see any way at all how that might not be sustainable....

I'm confused now: does 'bigender' mean that you identify as equally male and female or just that you have a massive arse?!