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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

We all knew it was coming... 'Trans-Age' is here

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BlessedKali · 03/01/2023 21:27

I've seen some posts on Twitter from profiles claiming to be 'Trans-Age' i.e they identify with a different age...

transage.carrd.co/#faq

''Transage is an umbrella term referring to those whose age identity does not align with their chronological age. It's a label that encompasses a wide range of experiences. It includes those who identify as older than their chronological age, those who identify as younger than their chronological age, and even those who are outside of the age-binary (such as agen't or xenoage individuals).''

We all knew it was coming... 'Trans-Age' is here
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ScienceDragon · 05/01/2023 15:29

Sooooo...as per that German (?) bloke who wanted his actual birth certificate altered - that should mean anything the transage person has accumulated by way of education, qualifications, etc should be immediately null and void, if they want to trans to a younger age. If they bought a house before the (new)age of 18, there would be implications. All contracts under law as well.

Meanwhile children who identify as older, should lose all access to benefits, such as free education up to the age of 18 (assuming they are now over 18). And no more backpacking rites of passage to Oz, if you have aged out of the visa age limit!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 05/01/2023 16:35

I identify as being dead, so I no longer am required to pay taxes and no longer owe any debt. Someone needs to honour my identity by providing a mansion for me to wander around.

Pretty sure ghosts can go and live wherever they like, without needing to seek anybody's permission: royal suite in Hever Castle or a bedsit in Wigan, the choice is entirely yours Grin

nilsmousehammer · 05/01/2023 16:48

Mezmer · 04/01/2023 22:58

In essence it’s about living in a fantasy world and denying factual and scientific truth and then imposing your fantasy world on others aggressively, morally blackmailing them if they challenge it as reality.

Yup.

Its one giant game of D&D with the other half of the game being the coercive control of others to enable you and to see how far you can push them to dance for you.

You only have to read a number of detransitioners' accounts to see how often their mention of becoming obsessed with control comes up.

I identify as having gone back in time to the 1950s. None of this shit has happened yet, and it's nothing to do with me dear. Pop along for a chat in 60 years.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 05/01/2023 17:03

In essence it’s about living in a fantasy world and denying factual and scientific truth and then imposing your fantasy world on others aggressively, morally blackmailing them if they challenge it as reality.

Quite. When my DN was about 3, he dressed up in his Thomas the Tank Engine costume and then, when I engaged and asked him "Are you dressed as Thomas?", he angrily replied "NO, I AM Thomas!!!!"

Very cute when a little one says that, but we can't have adults dictating to others by using a 3yo's logic.

Having said that, I still think back to that and wonder: if we'd been in public and, instead of "I AM Thomas" he had said "I AM a girl" (maybe dressing up as Dora or whoever), would there have been people waiting there to pounce and 'affirm' his 'true' identity?

MagpiePi · 05/01/2023 20:01

If I identify as a nun does that make me a transistor?

…I’ll get my coat…

Soubriquet · 05/01/2023 20:07

MagpiePi · 05/01/2023 20:01

If I identify as a nun does that make me a transistor?

…I’ll get my coat…

Grin
Legoninjago1 · 05/01/2023 20:44

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/01/2023 21:32

Been a thing for ever. Used to be called mutton dressed as lamb.

😂

SinnerBoy · 05/01/2023 20:47

*MagpiePi" Today 20:01

If I identify as a nun does that make me a transistor?

…I’ll get my coat…

Just as long as you don't make a habit of it.

Boiledbeetle · 05/01/2023 21:25

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Boiledbeetle · 05/01/2023 21:25

Ugh except for the don't want to grow up brigade

Boiledbeetle · 05/01/2023 23:36

I thought I'd calmed down enough to post my thoughts on this.

It would appear not.

I shall sit on my hands for this thread for a while longer I think.

Puts self back into naughty step.

Mezmer · 05/01/2023 23:52

You got yourself deleted Boiledbeetle! 😂

Boiledbeetle · 05/01/2023 23:58

🤐this user is temporarily keeping her gob shut......

I'm thinking my post in 5 4 3 2 1

😬😬

nilsmousehammer · 06/01/2023 08:32

If you've been played, then you probably had the ball.

PaterPower · 06/01/2023 10:00

If I identify as a Priest, does that mean I’m living vicariously?

(best I could do)

Boiledbeetle · 06/01/2023 10:06

@PaterPower here's your coat.

😁twas rather funny mind!

IcakethereforeIam · 06/01/2023 12:23

Ilford South have signed! Well done @Boiledbeetle

Boiledbeetle · 06/01/2023 13:00

You have no idea how glad I am that I can stop obsessively checking the sodding map🌻

AnnoyedwithGossips · 20/02/2023 19:36

Sounds like a joke but who knows with some of the ridiculous claims that people now make.

Well, I'm a 70 year old so want a pension and a bus pass Monday to Friday and a child at the weekend and want cheaper entry to theme parks.

Yes it's like a woman saying she is male and giving birth - she is female then not male, or a male that says he is a female with a penis - but women don't have penises so bugger off with the crap. Fight back with logic and fact.

AnnoyedwithGossips · 20/02/2023 19:38

"I identify as being dead, so I no longer am required to pay taxes and no longer owe any debt. Someone needs to honour my identity by providing a mansion for me to wander around."

Love it. Some brilliant examples of how we might identify here. My new pronouns are dead and gone.

AnnoyedwithGossips · 20/02/2023 19:46

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 00:41

Just need 13 more signatures. Come on, Vipers.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4688427-repeal-the-gra

SIGNED

AnnoyedwithGossips · 20/02/2023 19:47

I'm a bit late to the signing but hey ho it's still running and over 14,000 now

TheAdmiralAndFishermanFavorEntirelyDifferentPies · 20/02/2023 19:51

www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/20/shorter-indigenous-life-expectancy-should-mean-lower-pension-age-court-told

Evans Davis covered this on PM today. All I could think was how many people are now going to identify as first nation Australian?

SweetSenorita · 20/02/2023 19:56

BlessedKali · 03/01/2023 21:27

I've seen some posts on Twitter from profiles claiming to be 'Trans-Age' i.e they identify with a different age...

transage.carrd.co/#faq

''Transage is an umbrella term referring to those whose age identity does not align with their chronological age. It's a label that encompasses a wide range of experiences. It includes those who identify as older than their chronological age, those who identify as younger than their chronological age, and even those who are outside of the age-binary (such as agen't or xenoage individuals).''

Hannah and Lily can get to fuck. They deserve absolutely nothing. Their only purpose is to wind me up at the end of a long day!

nepeta · 20/02/2023 20:28

Identity is a funny thing. We can all have our inner identities based on whatever matters to us, but this is different from demanding that others also accept them fully. The latter usually requires that third parties verify our identities in some material sense (like a pilot's license for those who identify as bomber pilots).

For instance, I could want (theoretically) to identify as a citizen of some country I find fascinating (France) when I don't hold the citizenship of that country.

This could be fine inside my mind, but should I suddenly start demanding that others, too, accept this identity, they might ask for some other source of verification such as a passport. If they would do this or not depends on how much my demand to be viewed as, say, French, would encumber their interactions with me or their lives in general.

So there is a spectrum of possible responses to things like transaged people etc:

Everyone would probably refuse to validate an identity which would endanger others (such as me identifying as a brain surgeon when I am not and demanding that others see me as one, too).

Most people would refuse to validate a clearly lunatic identity (such as me identifying as an Elf) unless they just wanted to be kind and couldn't see what the harm in this was (until I kept insisting they learn to speak Elven with me or fly the Elven Liberation flag outside their businesses or set minimum quotas for Elven people in universities).

And most people would refuse to validate a trans-racial identity, at least if the dominant race (white in most places this topic is discussed) wants to identify as some other race.

Friends and spouses and so on probably would validate someone's identity as a great singer (when the person croaks like a frog) if this is important to the person and won't result in attempts to audition at some opera.

So though this slightly depends on the circumstances, when the inner identity conflicts with the rights of others or really consists of demanding that others change most everything in their lives, then we should probably refuse the identity unless it is very strongly supported by external evidence. Even in that case overall numbers of those hurt by this and those benefiting from this should be discussed and used as the basis of the conclusions.

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