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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

We all knew it was coming... 'Trans-Age' is here

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BlessedKali · 03/01/2023 21:27

I've seen some posts on Twitter from profiles claiming to be 'Trans-Age' i.e they identify with a different age...

transage.carrd.co/#faq

''Transage is an umbrella term referring to those whose age identity does not align with their chronological age. It's a label that encompasses a wide range of experiences. It includes those who identify as older than their chronological age, those who identify as younger than their chronological age, and even those who are outside of the age-binary (such as agen't or xenoage individuals).''

We all knew it was coming... 'Trans-Age' is here
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SockGoddess · 04/01/2023 12:02

it's all thoroughly logical steps on the same stairway, if we initially accept that the stairway exists in reality. And once somebody has been legally allowed and affirmed to start climbing that stairway, how can they possibly then switch to 'bigot' mode and say that it's OK for them, but that other people a few steps higher should not be allowed to identify as whoever/whatever they wish to?

Yes - and I wonder if there's actually a legal argument that if you accept and legalise one type of thoroughly unfounded and unprovable "identity" that appropriates someone else's physical reality, but not a different one, you are in fact breaking the equalities act by discriminating against protected groups. For example, saying that as a woman you can have your biological reality appropriated and erased by people who don't share it, but not agreeing to that for race, disability, etc, is discriminating against women - isn't it? IANAL but I wonder if that would be a workable approach. Of course with the aim of putting a stop to all of it rather than enabling all of it, which surely even the dumbest politicians and policy makers can see would be a disaster.

WontSomebodyThinkOfTheOtters · 04/01/2023 12:24

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll 😂😂😂

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/01/2023 12:53

Logicalreasoning · Yesterday 22:30
Im all for people being who they want to be, but why do we have to label absolutely everything 🤔

IMO people have a right to be who they want to be and love who they want to love.... I don’t know why people can’t except that, but it’s hard trying to keep up with all of these new terms...“

not if the object of their love is a child.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/01/2023 13:23

not if the object of their love is a child.

But this is the whole point of what we're saying. Going on the logical extension of the existing rulings, a 'transage' person would legally be the age they claim they identify as.

'Transchildren ARE children'
'Transadults ARE adults'

Regardless of whether they have chosen to announce this transition by their own free choice or coerced/forced; whether in full possession of all the facts or not in the least.

It's not a simple case of somebody being allowed to experiment with and change how they prefer to present, as long as nobody else is harmed or affected. We have already seen that the law will 'affirm', rewrite history and 'change' plain unalterable facts in order to validate how some people wish to identify - without caring how this clearly comes at a cost to and endangers large sections of society who have to give up their existing rights in order to accommodate the conflicting (and illogical) new rights that the ID-changers demand.

If a woman can be gaslighted and outright called a liar by an official government-sanctioned body that claims that she hasn't been raped as she reported, as 'there was no male present', how do you think the same captured people will react to reports of an adult abusing a child when 'there was no adult present - only another child of the same age' ?

GarethSouthgatesWaistcoat · 04/01/2023 13:24

BestKnitterInScotland · 04/01/2023 08:27

On the story about Brandon Lee who pretended he was younger get get back to school. This was almost 30 years ago. He was not asking anyone else to collude in his deception which is the case with all this "identifying" as a different age. There was also never any indication that his deception was about exerting power over other people, or getting a sexual kick from it, or getting access to teenage girls/boys by pretending to be younger. Going back to school was purely a means to an end for him, to get the qualifications to get into medical school after failing first time round. It's a fascinating story - the guy lives fairly locally to me and is still, at the age of 60 odd, trying to find a med school to take him.

He's quite mentally unwell, there was a very good film about the whole thing called "My Old School" which was shown on BBC over Christmas and should be available on iplayer.

At risk of derailing the thread I would say he was definitely asking others to collude in his deception - teachers, pupils and his mum.

Spoilers ahead:

The pupils were uncomfortable straight away but were reassured by those in authority that he was supposed to be there, had been in a car crash in Canada hence his aged appearance (??) that had killed his opera singer mother (complete fabrication) and his dad was an internationally renowned professor based in London (no-one fact checked). The kids were even immediately suspicious of his fake name considering it had been all over the news not one month prior.

His account made it seem he was quite comfortable getting power over other people and he came across quite manipulative imo. I'm sure his main goal was to get back to medical school but why did he drop out again almost immediately? His deception was all about getting access to teenage kids by pretending to be younger regardless of motive.

Reflecting as adults his peers were mainly surprised that he went out of his way to socialize in school and out of school which was not part of his ruse. They remarked it added a lot of risk when he could've just flown under the radar like he did at the beginning of the year by being an awkward nerd and keeping his head down. By leading the socializing (driving them about illegally, partying including at his own home, going on foreign holidays with minors) and playing the lead role in the school musical he seemed to delight in his deception and enjoy 'hiding in plain sight' as he put it. He was trying to rewrite his awkward 1970s teenage years at the expense of the 90s kids who hadn't consented to spending their time with a 30+ year old man.

The whole episode surrounding the school musical, his peers' remarks, the vintage footage and the fact he kissed a 16 year old girl passionately on stage (more than was required, more than he'd pretended to be comfortable with, than his co-lead was comfortable with/repulsed by in retrospect) and went back in for a second passionate kiss was frankly disturbing. No-one made him sign up to that role or continue with it.

I don't doubt he's incredibly mentally ill but my impression from his own account is that he is/was rather manipulative and enjoyed deceiving people (including minors).

LorenzoVonMatterhorn · 04/01/2023 13:26

Datun · 04/01/2023 10:05

What that article doesn't say is that Steph-on-knee was in a sexual relationship with the 'adopted daddy' whilst being allowed to play with his children.

He went on and on about how the dad made him feel soooo female while they were having sex. Utter perv.

Plus - at one point he was a trans advisor to the Canadian government.

The complete refusal to see any sexual motive to any of this is extraordinary.

Even his chosen name screams peadophile.

Ofcourseshecan · 04/01/2023 14:18

Brilliant!

Of course Transage is real, you bigots. And transrace, transspecies, transable, transnationality (I’ll have passports in every colour), transcriminal (so no one has to carry the stigma of being a thief, murderer etc), transliterate and anything else you can think of.

Really, the more the merrier. And finally people may stop agreeing to any of it, and sanity will reassert itself.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 14:38

Transparent, can see right through it.

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 04/01/2023 14:58

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 14:38

Transparent, can see right through it.

I posted this further up but I think it got missed: The next trend 😂. Transparent. www.instagram.com/p/ClUG_ZKPBb-/?hl=en

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 15:03

Apologies @Stepuptowardsinfinity not my intention to copy you, that would have been a transpostSmile

Stepuptowardsinfinity · 04/01/2023 15:11

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 15:03

Apologies @Stepuptowardsinfinity not my intention to copy you, that would have been a transpostSmile

Totally! If you don't want to click on the link by the way, look up itsthatgingerfella on Instagram. Its about the 3rd post and is hilarious. Starts 'now I identify as invisible, I'm trans-parant'.

Datun · 04/01/2023 15:14

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/01/2023 13:23

not if the object of their love is a child.

But this is the whole point of what we're saying. Going on the logical extension of the existing rulings, a 'transage' person would legally be the age they claim they identify as.

'Transchildren ARE children'
'Transadults ARE adults'

Regardless of whether they have chosen to announce this transition by their own free choice or coerced/forced; whether in full possession of all the facts or not in the least.

It's not a simple case of somebody being allowed to experiment with and change how they prefer to present, as long as nobody else is harmed or affected. We have already seen that the law will 'affirm', rewrite history and 'change' plain unalterable facts in order to validate how some people wish to identify - without caring how this clearly comes at a cost to and endangers large sections of society who have to give up their existing rights in order to accommodate the conflicting (and illogical) new rights that the ID-changers demand.

If a woman can be gaslighted and outright called a liar by an official government-sanctioned body that claims that she hasn't been raped as she reported, as 'there was no male present', how do you think the same captured people will react to reports of an adult abusing a child when 'there was no adult present - only another child of the same age' ?

If a woman can be gaslighted and outright called a liar by an official government-sanctioned body that claims that she hasn't been raped as she reported, as 'there was no male present', how do you think the same captured people will react to reports of an adult abusing a child when 'there was no adult present - only another child of the same age' ?

Yes. Transage might sound utterly preposterous, but the logic is exactly the same.

Being able to talk about transgenderism, without jumping up and down screaming what the fuck are you talking about, this is horrify nonsense, is just the result of the boiled frog syndrome that we've all been in.

Being able to 'identify as a woman' to the point where you can join in their sport, make your victim address you with a female pronoun, get to go to a woman's prison, and have the NHS be complicit in pretending you haven't raped a patient, is horrifyingly preposterous.

And yet...

nilsmousehammer · 04/01/2023 16:03

Yes. Ever increasing evidence that the time is here to look this nonsense straight in the eye and state reality and truth. As it is. And not buy into any bollocks that it is too rude and insensitive and too 'violent' to do so -

because until theres reciprocal care for actual violence and actual harm, and reciprocal sensitivity and courtesy, this is not anything 'nice' or 'kind' , it's plain coercive control and an abusive relationship. There is nothing healthy or right about this. The 'no' point will come, this political movement appears to be unable to stop from destruction testing in search of a boundary. The government need to wake up to the fact that 'no' is a lot easier said sooner rather than later after you've indulged a whole lot of stuff you now have to try and reverse.

Probably another reason why MNetters get this when no one else does.

Mezmer · 04/01/2023 18:11

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 22:15

I remember this. That was so hilarious!

Hilarious due to the double standards yes? Coz in my book Dutch guy had a point that Jane is not really in a position to refute?

YouJustDoYou · 04/01/2023 18:50

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 14:38

Transparent, can see right through it.

😂😂😂

Ruffpuff · 04/01/2023 19:42

This has been created so a 45 year old peado has the excuse to date a 13 year old. I’m sick of it.

OooScotland · 04/01/2023 19:45

Fraaahnces · 04/01/2023 02:55

From now on I’m going to self-ID as a 27 year old multi bajillionaire. Let’s see how well that works for me.

Trans-financial, I love it.

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 04/01/2023 20:07

Anyone else notice that the usual cheerleaders aren't on this thread?

DialSquare · 04/01/2023 20:14

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 14:38

Transparent, can see right through it.

Grin

Could also be a childless person!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/01/2023 20:45

This has been created so a 45 year old peado has the excuse to date a 13 year old. I’m sick of it.

I can't really think of any other reason. There's nothing stopping anybody from exercising regularly, eating a good diet, dressing fashionably, having botox and facelifts or whatever if they want to present as a certain kind of 65yo - what they personally consider as the optimum kind of 65yo; but the baseline they are going from is that they have been alive for 65 years and therefore are 65 years old. This obviously will never change, apart from to increase, the longer they live.

Exactly the same as nobody is stopping a man from wearing dresses and makeup, growing his hair long, painting his nails, taking up knitting or anything that he personally perceives as representing the best life he wants to live his life as a man. None of that either makes him into a woman, nor should he feel the need to reject his actual unchangeable identity, just because he doesn't want to comply with several unimportant sex-based stereotypes.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/01/2023 20:56

If we can make unilateral choices as to how we want to 'identify' that clearly have big implications and pose risks for other people and their lives too, against their will, can we vicariously identify other people as what we want them to be, to suit us?

Can I identify Jeff Bezos as my dad and then demand he support me massively financially and eventually leave me his money in his will? I don't know if he has actual biological children, but I suppose I could re-identify them as not his children, to make sure that I get it all myself. He's not really quite old enough to be my father, but if this thread has taught us anything, it's that chronological age counts for nothing whatsoever. In fact, it would be easier to just re-identify him as having been born in 1870, so that we can assume that he must now be dead; then I can have all of his money immediately!

Can I re-identify my noisy neighbours as living in the next county, so that I can live in peace?

Can I re-identify all football fans as non-fans, so that my preferred TV programmes won't be cancelled or moved around every time there's a big tournament?

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 04/01/2023 21:25

Fucking hell.

I'm off back to the age of seventeen again. Somebody pass the drugs ...

Mezmer · 04/01/2023 22:54

OooScotland · 04/01/2023 19:45

Trans-financial, I love it.

I think it’s already been done! Fake it til you make it is pretty common especially on social media.

Mezmer · 04/01/2023 22:58

In essence it’s about living in a fantasy world and denying factual and scientific truth and then imposing your fantasy world on others aggressively, morally blackmailing them if they challenge it as reality.

BlessedKali · 05/01/2023 14:36

I identify as being dead, so I no longer am required to pay taxes and no longer owe any debt. Someone needs to honour my identity by providing a mansion for me to wander around.

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