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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I don't have a gender because I refuse to believe in gender woo. But I'm not gender non conforming. What am I?

161 replies

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 00:13

Genderfree? I'm not agender or non binary as that implies believing in gender.

In times of old I would have described myself as a Woman, but as non biological women/ transwomen are now women I no longer want to use that word

Trans have spoilt the sex based meaning ot once had.

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Metabigot · 31/12/2022 00:52

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 00:51

Tbh I don't understand the question

I feel.the word woman has changed its meaning from sex based. I don't like this. It suggests I have a gender when I don't.

But I am a sex based woman and so shall continue to use the word.

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Ivyonafence · 31/12/2022 00:55

@Metabigot nor you.

But if this garbage goes unchallenged it can be even more difficult for already marginalised people to exist in online spaces.

God bless.

CaptainBarbosa · 31/12/2022 00:56

Fear not, the brigade have now invented neopronouns for such an event....

So when he/she/they/zie doesn't fit the bill

Feel free to basically use anything.

One I have seen recently is.....

Frog/frogs 🐸

Yep....FROG.

World's gone fucking mad, stop it spinning I am now fully ready to step off. 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 00:58

Oh, there's garbage that needs challenging all right.

Boomboom22 · 31/12/2022 00:59

I believe female genderfuck with she / her pronouns is the ideological way that fits best. Yes genuine terms. I'd say we are just personalities with a sex though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2022 01:02

But if this garbage goes unchallenged

Which garbage would that be? The idea that being a woman is an ineffable lady feeling that has nothing to do with biological reality?

beachcitygirl · 31/12/2022 01:03

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EarringsandLipstick · 31/12/2022 01:04

I am a sex based woman

Using that kind of nonsensical meaningless language is only adding to the circus.

You are a woman. 'Sex based woman' means nothing.

I share your concerns about the misappropriation of the word 'woman'. But you are tying yourself up in knots, needlessly.

Just use the word 'woman' as you always would, and forget about 'identifying' as anything.

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:04

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Metabigoted even

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CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:04

@Metabigot why don't you have a gender

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:05

Are you trans? Can we play bigot bingo?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2022 01:05

Why? I'm sure it makes you feel better about yourself, @beachcitygirl, but what's the rationale? OP is trying to feel her way through the identity landscape.

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:06

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:04

@Metabigot why don't you have a gender

Because I'm just me. I always have been. I don't need a gender to be me.

Yes I dress stereotypically female but that's the least of it. I just hate stereotypes.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2022 01:06

why don't you have a gender

What's a gender, where is it located and how can it be difficult from your sex?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2022 01:07

different from your sex

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:08

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:04

@Metabigot why don't you have a gender

What's 'a gender'?

Everyone has a sex, male or female (yes, people with DSDs included).

We live in a world where there are various 'gender stereotypes' imposed, or 'gendered roles'. These vary with time and culture, they're not absolutes.

We may conform to some, all, or none of these stereotypes and roles but that doesn't mean we 'have a gender'

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:09

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:08

What's 'a gender'?

Everyone has a sex, male or female (yes, people with DSDs included).

We live in a world where there are various 'gender stereotypes' imposed, or 'gendered roles'. These vary with time and culture, they're not absolutes.

We may conform to some, all, or none of these stereotypes and roles but that doesn't mean we 'have a gender'

That's my entire point

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Dotcheck · 31/12/2022 01:11

What ‘gender stereotypes’ do you reject?

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:11

If you have a fanjo your gender is female? ConfusedGrin

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:12

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:11

If you have a fanjo your gender is female? ConfusedGrin

No, that's your sex.

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:12

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:11

If you have a fanjo your gender is female? ConfusedGrin

No! I don't want a gender! I want to be recognised for my biological sex!

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Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:13

Dotcheck · 31/12/2022 01:11

What ‘gender stereotypes’ do you reject?

All of them
I'm anti stereotypes in general.

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ExhaustedFlamingo · 31/12/2022 01:14

If you reject current gender ideology, describing yourself as gender-free - or any variant of that - simply bumps up the numbers for the "other side" and will have the opposite effect of what you want. It implies that you agree with the gender woo and have adopted a different identity to your sex.

Continue to call yourself a woman, because that is your sex, and that is what you are. If asked your gender, you could opt for the box that says "prefer not to say".

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:14

Dotcheck · 31/12/2022 01:11

What ‘gender stereotypes’ do you reject?

The very existence of them ... that women should behave in any particular way just because of being female.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 31/12/2022 01:15

I'm the same. I have no gender identity. I love that according to Stonewall et al this makes me part of the LGBTXYZ 🤡
I am a woman because I'm an adult human female.
That's it.

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