Page 2 | Or...might it be the other way around? University of Edinburgh events clash

TellingBone · 2022-12-12T10:49:44+00:00

dialect Lauren Hall-Lew @dialect@mastodon.scot UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH 14 Dec 18:00 EUSA & Staff Pride Network are hosting a trans solidarity event at Teviot. The same day, “Edinburgh Academics For Academic Freedom (EAFAF) will be hosting a screening of the film ‘Adult Human Female’ and related discussion. We believe this event will contribute to an unsafe and unwelcoming environment on campus for our trans members.” Contact the University Secretary (leigh.chalmers@ed.ac.uk) or EUSA VP Welfare (vpwelfare@eusa.ed.ac.uk) to voice concerns! Dec 12, 2022, 10:30 · · Mastonaut · 1 · 1

HalfLass · 14/12/2022 23:08

Dreikanter · 14/12/2022 23:02

Robyn seems like a real sweetie and not at all into re-educating the non-believers.

studentnewspaper.org/interview-with-eusa-trans-and-non-binary-officer-candidate-robyn-woof/

Only by educating the cis community and gaining allies will we achieve liberation.

I am really upset and angry that not only does the university employ a number of academics who are vocal terfs, but some trans students have also been assigned them as personal tutors.

This is a corker:

Black and minority ethnic (BME) members of our community face so many challenges, as a white woman I will take my lead on these from them

Good God, what an absolute idiot he is. Is it just me or are lots of the TRAs just a bit thick? 🤔

Balaya · 14/12/2022 23:18

Is there any way to actually watch this film? Is it just private screenings that always get cancelled?

If so is the purpose of the film to encourage unrest on both sides of the fence rather than to be watched?

I'd really like to watch it. I'd also like the police to get involved in this sort of thing, never mind university security.

Dreikanter · 14/12/2022 23:19

It gets better. Robyn is a civil engineering student.

Please please please will someone put Robyn out on site on a fucking freezing January morning at 7am with a bunch of truculent blokes so that Robyn can be rapidly re-educated into real life.

dropthevipers · 14/12/2022 23:23

MingeofDeath · 14/12/2022 22:33

I'm really starting to hate theses fuckers

What took you so long? Glugging on the "be kind" kool aid?

Waitwhat23 · 14/12/2022 23:27

Just seen this by one of the entitled wee bullies -

twitter.com/DylanHamilton/status/1603133262066778113?s=20&t=9zarJ1IuGmV1zscQf0BMFQ

Apparently, when the venue was changed to allow those (many of whom had travelled some distances) to watch the film, the entitled wee bullies ran past them to make sure that the oh so scary film wasn't shown there either.

The childishness is just off the scale. And these are Uni students!

ArabellaScott · 14/12/2022 23:34

Robyn worked for three years as a volunteer in a drop in centre for female sex workers. (Pre transition).

uk.linkedin.com/in/robyn-woof-4b5a3820b

Waitwhat23 · 14/12/2022 23:43

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · 14/12/2022 22:37

I hope that if one of the Uni students did hit and spit on a woman there that they are arrested and charged!

There's certainly footage which shows one of them ('Robyn' I believe) spitting on a man who was in attendance to watch the film.

But this is Scotland. Our Police Force are entirely captured. So I won't hold my breath that anything will be done to sanction the spitter.

RhannionKPSS · 15/12/2022 00:02

AndEverWhoKnew · 14/12/2022 20:33

Yy he did. Perfect example of how education standards have fallen.

I'm very tired of security firms and police being incapable of actually, you know, securing or policing events.

I get closer every day to hosting one of these events because I know I could employ security/bouncers that were not flummoxed by some students.

The irony is that the security and bouncers at any student union have plenty of experience of dealing with whiny entitled idiots who want to be somewhere they can't (usually back inside after being put out). Funny how they can't find that resolve when it's about a film showing.

Yes that’s my take too. Rock Steady and many other companies should be employed by us to secure a place like that all day if it takes that to make this happen. It was appalling, I’m still raging and the temptation to knee that long piece of piss in the balls almost got me!!!

ClaudiusTheGod · 15/12/2022 00:08

‘As a white woman’???

Right. Ok then ‘Robyn’.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/12/2022 01:12

It isn't helping the trans cause to do this. Every time they behave like this I suspect it peaks more people. They are aggressive and hectoring. If there really is no clash between women's rights and trans rights then why all the reaction.

How many people will now go and watch Adult Human Female to see what the fuss is all about.

Sazzasez · 15/12/2022 05:19

Wee Dylan Hamilton, who boasts about winning Young Scot of the Year (Daddy works for Scots Gov) thinks they looked badass, and argues that, as Dylan is a transman, disagreeing with Dylan is misogyny.

i assume they supported Liz Truss: voting against a woman must be misogyny.

What has happened to basic logic?

mobile.twitter.com/DylanHamilton/status/1603153654873292802

NecessaryScene · 15/12/2022 06:23

Creepy, misogynistic men are creepy and misogynistic when enabled shocker.

This seems to have been going on long enough now that there are a significant number of men, like that Woof chap, who have been enabled so long that they've built up a huge mountain of entitlement - together with indignation when women don't give them what they believe they're entitled to.

I do struggle to believe that all these men aren't fully consciously taking the piss, but it does seem that many have worked themselves up into having a truly-felt grievance. (And people with a grievance can start self-justifying all sorts of horrors, even if they didn't start with fundamental personality defects leading them down this path.)

I'm reminded of this excellently-titled piece from the other day:

These men were promised lesbians

xxuserxx · 15/12/2022 06:34

Balaya · 14/12/2022 23:18

Is there any way to actually watch this film? Is it just private screenings that always get cancelled?

If so is the purpose of the film to encourage unrest on both sides of the fence rather than to be watched?

I'd really like to watch it. I'd also like the police to get involved in this sort of thing, never mind university security.

The film is freely available: adulthumanfemale.info/
(this link has previously been shared on other threads on this forum).

The point of public screenings is to allow women to meet and discuss this issue. At the cancelled viewing in Nottingham, the discusion went ahead anyway.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/12/2022 07:03

I see the Dean of Students from Leeds University has distinguished himself by tweeting that if the film is available online why did anybody need to try to meet up and watch it as a group? Ratio on that tweet is off the scale. Much mention of Iran.

Justme56 · 15/12/2022 07:06

Dylan thinks they look badass - hilarious! And why are they all wearing masks? Are they scared of catching Covid. If so why is the ‘mature’ student making a point of ‘breathing’ (looks like spitting) over people?

Waitwhat23 · 15/12/2022 07:12

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/15/trans-rights-activists-university-edinburgh-force-cancellation/

I think Marion from FWS puts it best -

“This was not free speech - it was a bunch of spoiled children who were upset that they hadn’t got their way,” Ms Calder, who was at the event, said.

“If they think this sort of thing will do their cause any good at all, then they clearly have no clue about campaigning.

“A lot of people had just turned up with an open mind, to see what all the fuss was about and to watch a documentary. They were all absolutely horrified at their behaviour and this approach to free speech.”

EdithStourton · 15/12/2022 07:19

I never cease to be amazed that almost all the vocal dickheadery is perpetrated by MTF TRAs, not the (I believe more numerous) FTMs.

Oh, wait....

Male entitlement, anyone?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/12/2022 07:19

This is a bit off-topic but I note that in the tweet thred that Dylan posted that they said they were recently post op. Dylan is so very young

Crispychocolateslab · 15/12/2022 07:24

Writing to the Principal of Edinburgh university is useless as he has shown himself time and again to be utterly spineless when it comes to standing up to the monstrous brats at his university.

However on this occasion it might do some good to write to the head of the school of engineering to voice concerns about Robyn’s behaviour. He has far more backbone than the principal does and may actually respond in a way that requires Robyn to examine the consequences of bullying women.

www.eng.ed.ac.uk/about/structure

Abccde · 15/12/2022 07:29

twitter.com/msjlindsay/status/1603176696919871489

Sorry if this offends anyone.

But boy is this true.

I ruled out Edinburgh straight away, St Andrews too. They just weren't my kind of people and I wanted nothing to do with them.

I know lots went to Edinburgh and did great- but it wasn't for me.

For a working class girl, it wasn't that I wouldn't fit it with these pretentious brats - I didn't want anything to do with them.

Clymene · 15/12/2022 07:33

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/12/2022 07:19

This is a bit off-topic but I note that in the tweet thred that Dylan posted that they said they were recently post op. Dylan is so very young

Reading Dylan's dad's Twitter, it's abundantly clear why Dylan wants to identify out of womanhood.

Beowulfa · 15/12/2022 09:47

I am minded of Margaret in classic era The Apprentice murmuring regretfully "Edinburgh's not what it was".

EsmaCannonball · 15/12/2022 10:14

Why is it that so many of the people attracted to the TRA movement seem so 'off'? Just creeps and grifters and people who set your spidey senses going.

RadicalFern · 15/12/2022 10:21

I booked a place for this and was then too anxious to go as I am not good with being in enclosed spaces with shouting men…

DameMaud · 15/12/2022 10:25