Kellie-Jay's New Political Party

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I can't see a thread on this, but she is starting a new party and will run in elections.

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Yes, my moral point stands.

What's your 'moral point' @HappinessAlley ? You just spewed a load of lies. Not sure you've got a handle on morality, have you?

Fair play to her. I admire her bravery. Yes she will get push back. Women speaking out for what they believe always do. Just look at Ngozi Fulani, Great Thunberg etc.

My comment was meant positively.

Exactly. And she knows it. So do the posters on here who are trying to undermine her.

And the made up claim that she's too right-wing, so it won't work, is even more stupid given who is going to be opposing Starmer!

Honestly, these people.

That's a very honest, self reflective post.

Once you start to perceive your own socialisation and realise you have been looking at life through its lens, observing afresh suddenly changes everything, irrevocably.

As they say, first of all it will piss you off, then it will set you free.

My advice? Take wine.

Wow, it's like groundhog day round here.

Can we just agree that KJK is the devil incarnate and guilty of everything so we can stop every thread being derailed by her "sins"?

The bbc (hopefully) will be forced to include her for "balance."

It's a genius idea.

Thank you, Datun.
I have learnt so much from the wise and funny women on this board. Not only about society and women's place in it but about myself.
I do get massively pissed off because I can't unsee it. Wine can indeed help but has to be timed carefully so as not to fuel unhelpful ranting.
Drip, drip as they say.

Yes yes yes!! The same process for me. I'm on the pissed off/free threshold
I guess this could be seen as the lotus from the mud.
There is an awakening of women who would never have begun to, if not for this new darkness that's descended on women's rights.

KJK is a Buddha

There is an awakening of women who would never have begun to, if not for this new darkness that's descended on women's rights.

Absolutely, DameMaud. Sometimes when all I can see is the dark cloud I remind myself that this is the silver lining.

Yes!

I acquired late onset feminism, as a result of this. Because it suddenly forces your eyes open with a screwdriver and pair of pliers, and you cannot stop it from making you see.

And this is why KJK is so effective. She is appealing to the women who have not necessarily read reams of feminist theory, who have not been treading the feminist line their whole life. Women who didn't 'see'.

But now we do.

We bloody well do.

And yes, as CriticalCondition says, it is absolutely is the silver lining. A whole host of women waking up to feminism.

Yay.

I do think women are bloody angry, not only with the nonsense here in the uk, especially in Scotland atm, but abroad too. I think politicians etc are actually revealing too much about themselves, it's shameful how little they care about others and are putting themselves in a difficult position by ignoring women's concerns and opening up women's spaces without even consulting women. You never know, we might get so pissed off we start demanding other things too!

Yes yes yes yes! At last!
KJK you might just...go down in history for this.

Is anyone else a little pessimistic that the country is going to be such a shitshow by the time of the GE, what with the CofL crisis, the energy crisis, increasing strikes etc that the "what is a woman" type questions from journalists are going to be pushed into the background?

It really feels like a different country now compared to back in spring when it was at the fore.

I admire what she’s doing however I can see this ending very badly for the gender critical movement.
The fact she has a very shady history of working with the far right (including those apposing abortion and contraception) will have her ‘pro women’ message invalidated in many minds.
Ive thought about this and I know the saying ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ but actually that square can’t circle here. As our ‘enemy’ is the ideology harming women, their ‘enemy’ is progression.
Tough one, hope it ends well with the message getting across and MPs having to answer questions they avoid, but I can see this going south sadly.
Julie Bindle would have been excellent.

The fact she has a very shady history of working with the far right (including those apposing abortion and contraception) will have her ‘pro women’ message invalidated in many minds.

That's not a fact. It's a lie. She hasn't worked with the far right, ever.

Julie Bindle would have been excellent.

Julie Bindel, on the other hand, does have a history of working with the far right, sharing a platform with the far right, and collaborating with the far right.

I think you have got some very crossed wires here @Namochang .

Well I think she'll be brilliant. Because I don't think most ordinary women (and other voters) will give a shiny shit about a "shady history of working with the far right". It's only the desperate to be Good People, hand wringing, purity spiral, mostly Internet types that can get themselves in a panty knot about that to be honest. Or who would even parse out her history thus.

Many, many women will solidly relate to KJK and her message. I 100% did. It was one of her videos that absolutely sealed the deal for me and lifted me right out of "be kind" space and into full on rage.

She made me see it. Actually I'd already seen it... she made me FEEL it.

It is a fucking brilliant thing she is doing here. I applaud her and would give her all the votes.

Tough one, hope it ends well with the message getting across and MPs having to answer questions they avoid, but I can see this going south sadly.
Julie Bindle would have been excellent.

Leaving aside all the recycled guilt-by-association stuff - I don't think she would.

For a start, much as I genuinely respect her - she isn't offering. And if she did, she wouldn't get a tenth of the attention KJK does.

KJK has the knack of being outrageous and creative; JB is a serious campaigner.

The way she and academics like Jane Clare Jones et al prefer to expend their energies on slagging KJK off rather than seizing the moment she creates is massively disappointing IMO.

Discussion with Helen Joyce and Julie Bindel on the issue of alignments or adjacency or simply pragmatism here. It is live and I'm listening as it unfolds. Both speakers are very persuasive

I’ve only watched one video but she seemed to me someone who could command media attention, bring good vibes and get message across quickly and simply.

People don’t have time to get bogged down in complexity so all the above makes her stand out to me as someone great to have as a voice for women’s rights

You’re wrong I’m afraid, she certainly did. She also said that this was the predominant issue and worth setting aside a woman’s legal right to abortion for. I don’t want to be nasty to her, but her version of GC just doesnt align with mine. That’s fine, we don’t all have to agree. But you can’t deny it, either.
Just like lots of you wouldn’t vote Labour because of their stance on this issue, I wouldn’t give her the time of day because of stances like that.

What is this crap about associating with the far right? KJK has always made it clear that she will use any platform that gets her message across because she perceives this issue as the single most important one for women. It doesn't mean she agrees with their views on, say, abortion (she doesn't).

If the far left were to allow her to use their platform, she'd be there like a shot. But of course, they never would. Wonder why .../s. Ah, of course, it's because they have difficulty knowing what a woman is.

Personally, far right, far left, I find them equally objectionable. Politics isn't a straight line from left to right. It's a circle where far left and far right meet in being equally beyond the pale.

This is nonsense. Having an opinion you don't like is not the same as a "shady history of working with the far right". You just can't go around lying like that.

Julie Bindel, on the other hand, has worked with the far right. She did a whole speaking tour with paid-up homophobe and fascist Milo Yiannopolis. You don't mind that, but you make up lies about KJK based on her having opinions you disagree with? Come on.