Kellie-Jay's New Political Party

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I can't see a thread on this, but she is starting a new party and will run in elections.

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1600235830475653123?s=20&t=hhlXpo7uErB4FlkFj1nSRA

www.theotherparty.co.uk

I also love the implication that none of the posters on this thread would need abortions or that their family wouldn’t.

bug is indeed in a world of their own where everyone who doesn’t agree are replicants or something. And that they are the ONLY one with any alleged skin in this game.

Polarisation and emotional manipulation doesn’t get old.

Straight after repeatedly posting a cut off screen grab??
Thats all that is available to be found. I didn’t cut it off if that’s what you are implying, the person she replied to and posted it did that.

I have not seen you once defend single sex spaces. Ever. But in case I’ve missed it, please repost.

In fact, weren’t you saying if we saw an obvious male in a female space we should let it go? Didn’t you also say that no woman ever died because a male identified as trans? I think you were also the poster minimising the attacks on women by TRA as ‘not that bad’.
All I have seen @Helleofabore do is post your actual words. I even went back and checked the threads. Those quotes are your actual words. I have read your posts as suggested. I know have even more suspicion that you are not in fact a feminist real or otherwise.

We are analysing your posts.

If you don’t want people to pick up the inconsistencies, the denigrations, the prejudices, maybe you should be rereading them.

Please post where a poster has ‘attacked’ you, personally. Rather than brought the integrity of your claims and your posts into the discussion.

No, you don't.
I'm pretty sure I recognise you as a name changer and you never stand up for single-sex spaces. You say you do, but you don't.

The hate for KJK has absolutely addled some people's minds. She's not the antichrist as much as you'd like to paint her that way.

Why don't you get out there and do something bigger or better than she can, that'll show her.

Yes, I'm sure I've been seeing that same, out of context screenshot being bandied around since way before R v W fell.

Thats all that is available to be found

And you're happy with that? You don't even care to find out the context yourself?

Not worried that you might be misrepresenting her view at all?

I make it a point of pride to ensure if I ever quote anyone, I provide enough information for anyone to check the source, and I try to make sure I've been able to see it in context. (Unless maybe it's just a pithy seemingly apposite quote about something from some writer where the precise original context isn't relevant.)

Well what other reason could there be to agree with giving up your right to an abortion? It’s usually an I’m alright Jack attitude.

So if KJK does what she has said, votes to set aside our rights to a legal abortion in her fight for other rights, what will you do? Tell your female relatives and friends to keep their legs closed? That having children is Gods plan for women and they should feel blessed (under his eye)?

What is your plan if your glorious leader does what she has said she would do and has abortion rights set aside? I’m really interested to know. Btw, you need to know that over half of abortions are due to contraception failures. The myth of the irresponsible teen/woman having casual sex being the cause of unplanndd pregnancies is misogynistic and baseless.

Another poster posted a transcript where KJK doubled down on her post and confirmed she would sacrifice abortion rights as she felt they could be won back. It’s upthread.

So if KJK does what she has said, votes to set aside our rights to a legal abortion in her fight for other rights, what will you do?

I don't know, what did you do when the Democrats set aside your rights to a legal abortion for decades?

How much power do you think KJK has over US law?

Are we living in a universe where her failing to campaign on abortion is somehow crippling Biden's ability to sort out US women's rights?

No one is implying you cut it off.

It is clear that whoever posted it, wanted it stripped of context.

We are pointing out though, your dishonesty in posting it, repeatedly doesn’t make it more convincing, as a ‘gotcha’. There is clearly nuance to the interpretation of what is written there. She is talking about prioritisation, you are trying to portray her as being against abortion rights, or calling for abortion rights to be attacked or some bad faith interpretation.

Only someone who thinks it is ok to condemn someone on a bad faith interpretation would post that pic.

But @Onnabugeisha you are doing the exact same thing with regards to the right to single sex spaces. You are willing to throw away womens rights to single sex spaces to protect abortion rights, and KJK has said the right to abortion is not as important as the right to single sex spaces. How are you different to her? You are both prioritising one right over another. The only difference I can see is KJK is not bitching about women who have different views on this issue.

Oi! What's this group Private Message thing all about? Why am I not on it? Am I not "GC" enough for that club? Or maybe it's because it's a load of bollocks and it doesn't exist?

I mean I'm sure there are those amongst us who probably do know each other out in the wild, but I'm fairly sure no-one had set up a Rota, Datun Wednesdays 3pm to 6pm "Your on bat signal duty if an interesting thread turns up".

That's just a whole different level of batshittery and paranoia right there!

Although in the interests of full disclosure I did have a brief private conversation with a poster on this thread the other week, but that was about dinosaurs (t-rex) trying to use tampons. Unless there was some secret code in that that I totally missed!

I’m in the U.K.. I fought for abortion rights because guess which part of the U.K. just got them? I’m not seeing them be tossed out so easily and so soon.

KJK is standing for Parliament. If you vote for her and she becomes an MP, she will have power to propose, amend and vote bills into law. There are already MPs in Parliament that have proposed abortion bans and tighter abortion restrictions in recent years. Do you really want to add another MP to their number?

I don’t.

How are you different to her?

Ah, Onnawotsit has the magic power to campaign for both things at once (in a sort of abstract way, where no-one sees it), whereas KJK is shit cos she does only one thing at once.

No I’m not. Again read my posts. That is not my view at all.
I disagree completely that womens rights are finite or a zero sum game where we can only have a few rights and so have to sacrifice one right to gain another.
Thats really messed up thinking.

There are already MPs in Parliament that have proposed abortion bans and tighter abortion restrictions in recent years. Do you really want to add another MP to their number?

Right, so that's just slander at this point. You are seriously saying that KJK would propose abortion bans or tighter abortion restrictions?

I find it hard to believe you really believe that.

This is one of those times I don't want to think bad of someone, but I struggle to think which motivation makes you less bad.

Ah Thankyou @NecessaryScene thats why I was confused. I think it’s because all @Onnabugeisha work on the campaign for single sex spaces is disguised by the minimising,attacking and demonising of women.

Nothing magical about campaigning for womens rights plural instead of one right for women and to hell with any other womens rights or equality.

And you have doubled down on the absolutism.

You have really missed the point of what she has typed there in that pic, and you haven’t listened to her explanations.

SHE doesn’t want to vote “to set aside our rights to a legal abortion in her fight for other rights”.

”Tell your female relatives and friends to keep their legs closed? That having children is Gods plan for women and they should feel blessed (under his eye)?”

And this above, that is some mighty big straw man you have built to burn down.

”What is your plan if your glorious leader does what she has said she would do and has abortion rights set aside? I’m really interested to know. Btw, you need to know that over half of abortions are due to contraception failures. The myth of the irresponsible teen/woman having casual sex being the cause of unplanndd pregnancies is misogynistic and baseless.”

Do you ever read what you write? Ever?

Do you understand how this post is lacking in anything like a honest understanding of what people have probably been pointing out to you for pages now?

That you could post this on a feminist thread, says pretty much all that needs to be said about you and your posting motivations.

Thanks for making that deep prejudice and complete lack of understanding of many poster’s views on this board so clear to everyone reading.

I think she would do what she has said. She would agree to and vote on an abortion ban or restriction in return for other MPs votes on her cause. That’s how politics works…MPs do the scratch my back and I scratch yours.

I wrote earlier (think it was this thread?) that abortion rights are not under threat in the UK.

Yes they are, the ADF & Baroness Nicolson amongst others have brought legal initiatives to attempt to reduce them in the last three years.

Hang on @Boiledbeetle , did you turn up uninvited? Fuck, my co-ordination skills suck!!

And they have failed, for all the reasons I outlined earlier.

I wondered why you were not turning up for your batsignal shifts @Boiledbeetle!