Kellie-Jay's New Political Party

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I can't see a thread on this, but she is starting a new party and will run in elections.

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@Helleofabore
No bug, I picked out two statements that were about adults. If you were supportive of female single sex spaces, those statements would give a sound indication about the protection of them.

Yes you cherry picked two sentences out of an entire thread and then created a false context to set them in. Why would you choose the sentences I wrote that were supportive of single sex spaces when that would make your post utterly pointless? Nope, you searched and searched until you could find two sentences out of thousands that you could twist to suit your ends of insulting me. Because you have an irrational hatred of me.

Probably because you still have egg on your face from earlier.

I seek truthfulness and seek to find facts in my posts.
🤣🤣🤣

Nope.

I was talking about my own actions if I saw a person that I perceived as a male child or teen come into the female toilet.

You are now lying.

Crack on. It continues the live display of your dishonest style of posting.

Onnabugeisha

I did warn you that Helleofabore would be along soon, to show you up like she did on the other thread.

She is no ordinary analyst. She is a Marks & Spencers, forensic, leave no stone unturned, chocolatey analyst. With a photographic memory.

You’ve just lied! You were talking about the woman in the article as you were accusing me of dialling up what happened. Now that I posted the text from the article, you’re changing your tune and claiming you were talking about your own actions.

Oh, you are entertaining. But not that entertaining. You see I leave a thread and do not come back because you are literally your username.

Im actually leaving the thread now. Dig you hole hi ho hi ho. I know you will, you can’t resist having the last five posts.

Please post those posts supporting female single sex spaces. If I missed them, I will apologise.

Or. Are they exactly like those posts of yours on the Oakland thread.

You know, the ones where you say you don’t dismiss violence against women, yet you then posted immediately statements which placed them at the bottom of the violence hierarchy so as to make your words meaningless, Or you made light of it.

such as :

“Probably because you still have egg on your face from earlier.-”

(Readers. The Oakland protest thread was about a small group of women protesting River’s potentially being placed in a female prison. Those women were attacked. Part of the attack was throwing eggs and cream pies at them. Hence this reference here)

Jesus wept, bug. Surely you'd have to be some kind of unhinged narcissist to believe that what you were doing on this thread would turn anyone towards your point of view. Never has the phrase 'u ok hun' been more apposite.

Thank you @Helleofabore for providing context for this person's posts. I understand much more clearly where they are coming from now.

Bye then 👋

Oh, you're still here 🙄

I'm glad that poster has turned out to be a bog standard TRA and not someone from WPUK.

I'm extremely pissed off with WPUK for the way they have trashed KJK (among other things) but they have platformed lots of superb women and have stood up to a lot of nasty TRA behaviour, so I don't want to be too harsh about them.

OMFG seriously? Do you realise how bloody stupid you appear to be right now?

No. I was talking about me.

Did the women politely ask? I thought she ‘gasped’.

Anyway. The first time I ever mentioned ‘asking them if they were in the right space’ was:

05/12/2022 13:14
So, presumably because you think confronting masculine seeming children in the women’s toilets is the right thing to do, is this something you have done or would do?

Yes. I would ask if they were in the right space for them if I honestly thought that this was a teenaged boy.

My answer was in bold in regard to the italics.

In fact before this I posted a some posts about how a child should be treated sensitively.

However, you have also tried another manipulation here. Because initially you also tried to blame ‘GC feminists’ for that girl being subject to such scrutiny.

But it is ok. I know that readers who are interested in the tactics used by exteme activists will go to those previous two threads and see your work in action and look at it through the lens of the manipulative and dishonest way you post.

And glad you notice that I have posted ‘five’ posts at the end of threads you have tried your fuckwittery on.

On the one about the short haired girl those posts included links go a guide for safeguarding and a pertinent point :

As set out in Part one of Keeping children safe in education (KCSIE), all staff working with children are advised to maintain an attitude of ‘it could happen here’.

The important part being - it COULD happen here.

I also posted stats about peer on peer, or for clarity ‘child on child’ sex abuse, assault and harassment in the UK.

And mentioned Loudon County and the teacher aid that ignored the rape when she actually saw the girl lying face down on the toilet floor with the male’s feet a
standing over her. I believe the male was 15. Or was the male 14?

And Dolatowalski.

You see, readers keep reading the thread after you leave and that kind of information puts your posts into perspective.

Yeah. I know. I post long and boring posts. I have been told this numerous times.

You know why? Because most of the time I see fuckwittery and I think ‘that isn’t right, or at least, that isn’t quite right’ and I need to detail it all down for myself.

And if I helps one lurker to formulate their own answer to similar fuckwittery, I consider that a bonus.

Tell you what, try engaging without the scolding, shaming or even vilifying of women you don’t agree with and have an actual dialogue. Or ignore my posts, and I will continue to post about the fuckwittery vin your posts without engaging with you directly. Just pretend I am not here. And if I am not making valid points, others will tell me and call me out. And they will correct me where I get it wrong, I will apologise and correct it.

Sorry for the typos. It is very late.

I'd vote for her.
I don't care where she went to school, I'd rather she didn't need to use more right wing platforms to get the message across but seeing as the left wing media/ the left in general (other than the communists) have abandoned working class women at every turn it's the only platform we have.
GB news is not even right wing, it's libertarian which is not the same thing..
Good luck Posie, bring this shit show out into the open.
I'd vote for Posie every day of my life over sex work is work Nadia whittome absolute moron that she is bless her liberal heart.

I am posting this, not as a TAAT post, but as evidence of dishonesty.

The denial of being an extreme trans activist is about as convincing as the assertion that bug is recognisable as a feminist.

A poster that so actively and persistently downplays, to the point of dismissing and even making light of, violence against women is not a feminist I would recognise. I doubt WPUK leadership would publicly say that while directly representing the group either. Such we ask them?

Also suspect is using terms like GC feminists while seeking to blame them for people being missexed in toilets.

By the way, I reread bug’s posts and nope, not one even small indication that they support female single sex spaces.

In fact the language used is almost out of an exteme trans activist playbook:

keep your mouth shut

decency

In the article it’s a GC man and a GC woman mistaking sex and harassing the authors daughter.

whinging about a seeming transgirl playing on a girls football team and calling her “he” and “him.” It’s GC activists.

So is this blonde woman telling the TW to stay out of womens’ spaces and not to use womens’ toilets a GC feminist or TRA feminist? (by the way this statement was about KJK and D Ennis)

who is policing womens toilets-

it’s often GC activists policing womens’ toilets

you are GC and you do police womens toilets

So, since as a pp devotee claimed “GC feminists are better than average at telling sex”-

few avowed GC feminists here on MN

To the GC women. (This one was part of a forced teaming tactic)

Sorry??? is this a person who support female single sex spaces? Using language like this on a thread about a 12 year old girl being asked if they were female for purposes of sport, overnight group accommodation and toilet usage?

OK. If you say so. I don’t believe you but that is fine. You can believe what you want.

If nobody is allowed to say what a woman is, how do women have rights?
We need words, we need the definition that everyone understands, everyone on earth knows what a woman is, we all came out of one, one way or another.
If abortion becomes a person's right we are opening the gate for men to deny or force abortions.
Abortion is nothing to do with men or People.
It's only and always about women and what we decide to do with our female bodies.

@Helleofabore I lurk a bit and it's very clear as an onlooker what @Onnabugeisha is doing.

I don't think Onnabugeisha realises like a PP said that people can and do go check these threads themselves. It just makes them look very, very silly and shows up their real agenda.

Onnabugeisha - "She guessed the age of some girls as 7 (which is an assumption) and said For Fucks Sake, Disgusting, Sexist, and told the school to Sort it Out."

Yes, she did. Good on her because these women who were forced to wear hijab when they were 7 say this:

"Standing up for freedom should never be labelled as Islamophobia"

Andrew Doyle:
So you both you've both had experiences where you both grew up in in Iran under this regime, being forced to wear the Islamic dress, in accordance with the morality police. But I've heard women in the West, feminists in the west, sometimes say that it's empowering to wear the veil and this is something that that is, is almost like a feminist symbol. How do you respond to that?

Mooniter:
Well, uh, go ahead, go ahead.

Elnaz:
I would say, to me, that's a symbol of oppression, honestly, because you have to wear it. It doesn't matter if you want to wear it or not. I was seven and I had to wear it to the school, and I did not want to wear it as a seven-year-old. I didn't want to wear it and I had no choice in that. And that means my opinion, as a woman, I got the message that my opinion didn't matter, I have no voice I you know.

I couldn't, so psychologically it taught me how not to say "No" to anything. And that goes from like saying "No" to hijab, saying no to other oppressions that were going on in Iran. So, you know, to ask, kind of accountability, even I would say it affected my my marital life because, you know, I felt I didn't matter.

Andrew Doyle:
So, Mooniter, do you do you think it's just that people in the west aren't familiar with what's going on?

Mooniter: That's absolutely what it is, um, because feminists, if feminists are always saying that, uh, they're advocating that, "My body, my choice" - how about Iranian women? How is this our body but Islamic Republic's choice?

Onnabugeisha Friday 9 Dec 11:39

"in many Muslim groups, the hijab comes on with the onset of menarche as a sign of womanhood. With 8yr olds now getting their periods, it’s not unusual to have older primary age girls (Yrs 5 & 6) wearing the hijab.

KJK is conflating rite of passage type religious practices with sexual availability."

Here you glorify the sexualisation of pubescent girls and their forced indoctrination into Patriarchal cultural oppression, framing it as a harmless, exotic religious practice.

This is not "feminism" it is cultural relativism in the service of Patriarchy and male sexual rights.

Laughable that you later throw in the hyperbolic cliché "barefoot and pregnant" to refer, ludicrously, to the situation of western women in the 1950s. Yet you are an apologist for little girls being forced to display the symbol of their religiously codified oppression and sexual objectification.

So you think it is fine for little girls to be forced to wear the hijab. How about the niqab? The burqa? Just a little bit of FGM maybe, but not the really bad sort, eh?
After all, FGM is practiced in some communities as a "religious rite".

Onnabugeisha · Friday 9 Dec 17:25

"I belong to them (WPUK). If they think I’m out of line, they can kick me out,

Its not hate for me in my private capacity as a woman . . .

In what sense do you claim to "belong" to WPUK? WPUK does not have a membership scheme that you can "belong" to.

Neither is it a political party, although you seem to think so:

Onnabugeisha · Friday 9 Dec 13:47

AlisonDonut - "Can you post a link to your political party so that we can all see what a true and honest feminist looks like?"

Onnabugeisha - "Of course, it’s WPUK"

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Given that nonsense and your posts on other threads it is obvious that:

a) you are not a feminist
b) you do not "belong" to WPUK
c) you are possibly not even a woman
d) you are attempting to damage the reputations of both KJK and WPUK
e) you seek to pit women against each other and distract them from fighting for women's rights and the protection of children.

What sort of person would do that, I wonder?

You honestly think that CHILDREN age 8 and up are fair game in this adult struggle, I think that is disgusting.

yes. All those gender ideologists encouraging children of 8 and up to take experimental drugs and have life changing surgery are disgusting I’m glad you agree @Onnabugeisha. The fact girls as young as 10 are getting sexually assaulted in the mixed sex toilets you advocate for by a male with a trans identity is disgusting. As a real feminist as you claim, how exactly are you advocating for the rights of girls like this by saying all spaces should be mixed sex? Or are they just collateral damage to you?

Yes, I agree. Definitely not a feminist. And attempts to be divisive at every turn.

Im sure they believe their posts are subtle and persuasive. Not clearly contradictory and consistently misogynistic.

Yes, the idea that children can be transsexual is lunacy, and it astonishes me that so many people are going along with this.

Transsexualism is for adults, not children. And if anyone wants to argue that transgenderism or 'trans' is different from transsexualism, please explain what the difference is.

They dial down the language to minimise violence against women but dial it up in the other case. So a simple question becomes an aggressive interrogation by gc women patrolling ladies loos. Insinuations become incontrovertible facts

nicely put

I think it’s fascinating that the same people arguing KJK can work with whoever she wants to get the message across, don’t think that other individual women should be able to have their own boundaries and decide she’s not for them due to the people she’s worked with.
I see this as very much a feminist movement still and her principles don’t align with mine, so I don’t support her.

Disagreeing on that point doesn’t make me a Mens rights activist, and if that’s the come back we go with when the left wing feminists get suspicious with her at the front, we’re going to look like a laughing stock.

Ah the whiff of desperation. I knew you couldn’t resist digging holes whilst I was away. It’s hilarious how you had to resort to cutting and pasting three words to twist things your way.

I am a woman, I am a feminist, I am not a GC feminist because I cannot agree with the GC belief that transgender people literally do not exist. I am similarly not a TRA because I believe in womens’ right to single sex spaces.

Both GC and TRAs are extremists and do not realise that the majority of women are trapped between these polar opposites.

So all your snippets of text prove nothing of what you think they did. You cannot seriously think all women who want single sex spaces are GC? It’s why you’re not popular. It’s why when you hold your rallies there are a dozen on your side and hundreds counter protesting against you.

KJK doesn’t even identify as a feminist FFS.

I have posted nothing but the truth about KJK. I find it absolutely despicable that you would confront children in toilets and am baffled as to why you chose that thread which paints you as a coward and bully who likes picking on children.

I find it despicable that you are comfortable with the idea of sacrificing our right to a legal and safe abortion for any concession of any kind from the patriarchy- that’s the mindset of an MRA Handmaiden, not the mindset of any feminist worth her salt. But it goes along with being a coward right? Too afraid to fight for your rights so you’re going to side with whoever cuts a deal no matter how many womens lives it costs to do so.

We didn’t win our reproductive rights to just set them aside with a nebulous comment “oh we can win them back” ?! Really? How fucking stupid can you be?

But you’re alright Jack because you’re probably past the age of needing an abortion and you don’t give two shits about all girls and women of childbearing age. Which is most women btw.