Girl Got A New Haircut. Father Shocked By The Things Strangers Now Say To Her.

[Onnabugeisha]

From US HuffPost

My Daughter Got A New Haircut. I'm Shocked By The Things Strangers Now Say To Her.

"Our 12-year-old daughter would like to pee without being harassed. Lately, she can’t seem to escape it."

Article: www.huffpost.com/entry/daughter-short-haircut-harassment_n_6384dd5ae4b06ef4a546c8a5?utm_campaign=share_email&ncid=other_email_o63gt2jcad4

In the article it’s a GC man and a GC woman mistaking sex and harassing the authors daughter.

In the article it’s a GC man and a GC woman mistaking sex and harassing the authors daughter.

I can't see anything in the article which suggests those adults were gender critical. I'm not sure you correctly understand what it means if that's what you inferred.

Nice try. It’s not TRAs challenging a possible transgirl in the womens toilets or whinging about a seeming transgirl playing on a girls football team and calling her “he” and “him.” It’s GC activists. You know it, I know it. Let’s not pretend otherwise.

There’s no inference going on, it’s written in plain English that children are being caught in the crossfire.

I'm not giving HuffPost clicks. They are very firmly of a position.

I wish Kate Middleton would chop her hair off. I didn't particularly like Lady Di but her short hair made the 80s much better for those of us with short hair. I still got told to leave the Ladies numerous times, in many ways from polite to not-so-polite. As a child. And a clearly female one in every way but hair.

I think your point seems to be that ravening hordes of GC adults are rampaging around toilets waiting to pounce on unsuspecting children with their vile GC ways. I mean I do understand that you want to paint the Toilet Wars as balanced. They aren't really. The whole issue would be solved by everyone accepting that single sex spaces are exactly that.

You must be reading a different article to me - there is no confirmation that the adults challenging Jenny are gender critical. There's a massive assumption made, but no evidence is put forward.

This has always happened, it happened to me back in the 80s and it happened to DS back in the naughties. The only thing that has changed is the volume of girls with short hair - practically negligible now, it wasn't that uncommon when I was a lass.

Gender critical people don't judge children's 'gender' by their haircut.

You really don't understand what the term means.

That man wasn't a transactivist or gender critical. He was someone who idiotically assumed short hair = boy.

I do get cross at this assumption that GC feminists are somehow invested in gender stereotyping. That's the TRAs toots. Without the stereotypes, how can trans males 'live as a woman'? What does that actually mean beyond 'adopt a set of gender codes that most people will read as woman.'

We. Hate. That. Shit.

There is no mention of the adults in the article being gender critical, in fact they seem to be the opposite: people who believe in gender and it's artificial, cultural rules about things like hair length. I'm not sure the OP understands that gender critical people want to abolish gender and that many of us can see that the promotion of gender over sex is making society more sexist and homophobic. Sex = girls are human female children. Gender = girls are human children with long hair. The latter is regressive and cultural.

Agree OP - I've always believed children should be well out of this.

No trans lobby groups / individuals "training" children in schools.
No lobby groups "educating" children in care of the state about trans ideology
No drag queens performing for children.
No adult born males changing and showering alongside girls
No adult trans groups influencing the health care of vulnerable children in GIDs or the NHS
No charities giving children body harming binders or "helping them"to access drugs from dodgy struck off doctors online

Nobody should be using children as a front for their campaigning - queer theory politics doesn't get a pass.

The actual harm being done to so many children by these adults is off the scale so well done for realising that children should be kept well away from this issue.

they’re not challenging a trans girl.

they are challenging what they think is a boy. Or a transboy, in the case of the football. The judgement is short hair= male, and the assumption is there’s a boy playing on the girls team, or a boy in the women’s toilets.

if it were a trans girl she’s have long hair.

a child with long hair on the football team or in the female toilets would probably not pass comment.

Seriously stop with these ploppy gotcha articles, and start applying some critical thinking.

It is an appalling article, that focuses on gender identity, and completely fails to address the real issue, that being society is pigeon holing everyone and someone mistaking an other's gender is not a great act of violence.

It could easily have been written with a totally different slant on it, the author chose this one and it is a poorer article for it.

I think this quote is most appropriate in response:
”Never mind. No matter the twisted motivation or misdirected agenda, there is a power imbalance when an adult confronts a child about their looks, style, clothes, gender or gender identity…”

No matter the twisted motivation or misdirected agenda, there is a power imbalance when an adult confronts a child about their looks, style, clothes, gender or gender identity…”

Well yes, of course. Those adults were way out of line. Obviously.

But back up a step, no sensible adult should find a child's haircut 'confusing' in the first place. Hair is hair (just like toys are toys, clothes are clothes).

Honestly. It's transactivists who say that a woman can live as a man just by cutting her hair. Gender critical women say the opposite. That hair length is zero indication of sex.

It's gender ideology that claims superficial stereotypes suggest if you are male or female.

Stop blaming GC women for trans ideology nonsense.

And if you think it's only gender critical women who don't want males playing on female sports teams, you're very much mistaken. It's practically everyone.

No it isn't. You just made that up.
Traditionalists and the religion of gender identity béliève in this stereotypic shit, not those who are gender critical (the clue is in the name).
You don't appear to know what being gender critical means.
I also note your repetitive use of the term 'GC's', which is dehumanising.

It’s not TRAs challenging a possible transgirl in the womens toilets or whinging about a seeming transgirl playing on a girls football team and calling her “he” and “him.” It’s GC activists. You know it, I know it. Let’s not pretend otherwise.

You and I know nothing of the sort. I don't know any women who shout at children in toilets.

Incidentally are you an old poster with a name change? You seem awfully familiar

And if you think it's only gender critical women who don't want males playing on female sports teams, you're very much mistaken. It's practically everyone.

In this case, a bloke who (a) mis judged a child's sex because of the length of her hair but then behaved horribly. If he thought there was a boy on the girls team he should have had a quiet chat with a coach or whoever.

What do you make of Eddie Izzard's story about being confronted by teenage girls in the Ladies? Who is leaving children out of it there?

My primary concern reading this is that if you’re a GC man or woman and you think you are seeing a transchild, then keep your mouth shut or find their parent(s) as the author suggests

No one except a committed genderist is going to assume a girl is trans because she has short hair. That doesn’t even make sense. Hair length is not sexually dimorphic. It is heavily gendered, however, thanks to the TRA gender enforcement army.

This father is either making shit up or is fundamentally confused about the worldview of people who make these remarks.

Most likely he’s making shit up, he
seems like a specimen of the same kind of deeply confused idjit who thinks being gender critical is about reinforcing gender roles.
But the soccer incident is consistent with the other father trying to “affirm” his daughter’s perceived gender identity as a transboy.

Honestly, you should be embarrassed you posted this.

"Adults second-guessing Jenny’s gender — out loud and to her — began soon after the haircut. During a soccer game, the father of a rival player kept referring loudly to Jenny as “he” and “him.” It was outside the earshot of our sideline, and we didn’t find out until after the game. Our daughter’s teammates would have none of it. They checked the dad in real time, admonishing him that “you need to check your pronouns, buddy.”

So that's 12 year old girls giving cheek to the father of one of the players on the rival team because he innocently thought that Jenny was a 12 year old boy?

And Jenny's dad thinks that's just great?

"For Jenny, my wife and I will be just outside the bathroom door. We’d be happy to discuss why you’re so concerned with the body parts below our daughter’s beautiful head of hair."

Nice euphemism for, "What are you people? Genital inspectors?"

The only sick and twisted person here is the author.

This story is just typical trans activist trash-talking, gaslighting bullshit.

@Onnabugeisha but isn’t it trans ideology adherents that believe short hair = boy, long hair = girl so the complaining father may have been a full TRA? GC feminists don’t care about peoples hair length, in fact if you look at many prominent GC women, they have short hair, and are still women, whereas Eddie Izzard believes you’re a girl if you wear heels. So the article seems to be a trans activist father is picking on a girl for not comforting to gender stereotypes as they are the ones who insist on gender stereotypes o define people.

Well yes 😳

obviously

although judging by your post i reckon that there are a lot of people out there that have no idea that they are a GC person…..i don’t know what your definition of GC is to be fair

Any adult questioning a girl for having short hair is not GC.
More likely to be a TRA or a misguided fool who thinks hair length and clothes dictate gender, which is ridiculous.

Oh and: “She is a strongly feminist Cis (sorry but you have to state that as well these days)”
No. You don’t have to state that at all. Women and girls are not a subset of their own sex. Using Cis plays into this gender madness and accepts that humans can change sex, when they can’t.

If there was one child I would absolutely assume was /not/ a transgirl on the girls' football team, it's the one with short hair. The first thing kids with gender issues do seems to be change their hairstyle. They may think they're a transboy so I'd probably avoid pronoun use around them, but none the less welcome on the girls' team for that.

a misguided fool who thinks hair length and clothes dictate gender,

There are people who are neither transactivists nor gender critical who think gender stereotypes linked to sex are right and proper. In the US that's probably a lot of 'religious right' types.