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So that's why Susie Green left

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DistantVworp · 02/12/2022 13:27

Charity commission launches formal inquiry into Mermaids:
twitter.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1598666394610147329?s=20&t=x_Supvwk6lHkKBR7a-ESSw

About bloody time!

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Birdsweepsin · 02/12/2022 14:31

I'm sure someone somewhere has a full list.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/mermaids-corporate-collaborators

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 14:31

Kucingsparkles · 02/12/2022 14:21

Can we do a FWR whip-round for a 60-foot-high billboard saying "WE F**KING TOLD YOU SO"?

I'd happily stick my hand in my pocket for that

Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/12/2022 14:31

fucking hell and about time!!!

this is really serious stuff. The trustees should be shitting themselves - I hope their liability insurance is good!

however, it won’t undo the harm that’s been done to so many children & their parents. What has been allowed to go on is absolutely scandalous. As so many people have asked before, why were so many of the great and the good in the NHS, government, funders, private sector etc so quick to fall over themselves to support mermaids when campaigns about other marginalised & genuinely appalling treated people e.g. people with severe learning disabilities confined in institutions fell on deaf ears? What was it about mermaids that made them forget every single bit of common sense they had??

ArabellaScott · 02/12/2022 14:32

What was it about mermaids that made them forget every single bit of common sense they had??

Yes. I've been trying to work this out for ages.

WarriorN · 02/12/2022 14:32

Did someone (4 years ago) say... kids company...?

MilkshakesBringAllTheCoosToTheYard · 02/12/2022 14:33

I wouldn't pop the corks just quite yet.

One of the things that has always concerned me about Mermaids (apart from the obvious) is the huge growth of the charity in a very short amount of time. Green was an IT manager from CAB (lovely organisation but she wasn't hugely high up in it iirc). It grew from being volunteer-only to having 40+ staff and millions of ££ in income in something like four years? And (again iirc, I don't actually want to go back onto their site to check) the trustees were chosen for their ideological purity rather than their skills in running a business.

The one thing guaranteed to light a fire under the CC's arse after Kid's Company is misappropriation of resources. While I do appreciate the nod to safeguarding in the MM statement could be a 'tell' - I think it's just as likely that this could be about money/governance/management. Charities aren't allowed to do an awful lot of stuff.

Of course, any sunlight on MM is a good thing. But if this is about money rather than ideaology, another MM will pop up just as quick.

ArabellaScott · 02/12/2022 14:33

Hoping that there will be other, safer, saner organisations who can step in to help the children & families that have been so badly failed by Mermaids.

WarriorN · 02/12/2022 14:33

however, it won’t undo the harm that’s been done to so many children & their parents. What has been allowed to go on is absolutely scandalous. As so many people have asked before, why were so many of the great and the good in the NHS, government, funders, private sector etc so quick to fall over themselves to support mermaids when campaigns about other marginalised & genuinely appalling treated people e.g. people with severe learning disabilities confined in institutions fell on deaf ears? What was it about mermaids that made them forget every single bit of common sense they had??

Unfortunately you are right

ResisterRex · 02/12/2022 14:34

twitter.com/ewansomerville/status/1598674369991131136?s=46&t=wPMOqoiImICeq7kMPSivTA

"More to follow" according to the Telegraph. Somerville seems to be their lead on this topic.

donquixotedelamancha · 02/12/2022 14:35

Who's going to want the CEO role now?

Probably pays quite well. I imagine there are plenty of people with on their CVs than 'chopped off my kids penis'.

happydappy2 · 02/12/2022 14:36

I feel quite sick that National Lottery money funded Mermaids....didn't Children In Need as well?

ThanksAntsThants · 02/12/2022 14:36

VestofAbsurdity · 02/12/2022 14:14

The Commission opened a regulatory compliance case into the charity in September 2022 after safeguarding allegations were raised. It has now formalised its engagement by opening a statutory inquiry, due to newly identified issues about the charity’s governance and management.

Newly identified issues read it and weep Mermaids and all your craven, sycophantic supporters.

Anyone who comes out with We didn't know, yada, yada YES YOU FUCKING DID, YOU WERE WARNED YOU REFUSED TO LISTEN AND JUST SLUNG ABUSE AT THOSE DOING THE WARNING.

I don’t suppose those issues were newly identified on here, they’ve probably been talked about for years. Cue all the hand ringing and ‘lessons will be learned.’ with no acknowledgment whatsoever that they ignored and vilified the people trying to alert them. Lessons will be learned, apart from those lessons that involve listening to people, women, who say things they don’t like the sound of.

I hope this inquiry won’t delay The judgement in mermaids case against LGBA. It’s not fair to keep it hanging over LGBA.

TheShellBeach · 02/12/2022 14:36

Excellent - and how typical that they're asking people to donate so that they can "fight back" because they're "under attack."

Hopefully people will see what's really going on here.

VestofAbsurdity · 02/12/2022 14:36

however, it won’t undo the harm that’s been done to so many children & their parents. What has been allowed to go on is absolutely scandalous. As so many people have asked before, why were so many of the great and the good in the NHS, government, funders, private sector etc so quick to fall over themselves to support mermaids when campaigns about other marginalised & genuinely appalling treated people e.g. people with severe learning disabilities confined in institutions fell on deaf ears? What was it about mermaids that made them forget every single bit of common sense they had??

The absolute harm this charity has wreaked on children and families is despicable. There needs to be full blown, completely transparent Public Enquiry into Mermaids et al and all the institutions that supported them.

Get anything to do with Mermaids and any other similar charity out of schools, the NHS, the Police, etc., now.

RocketPanda · 02/12/2022 14:37

There's no glory in this. How many children and families have been forever harmed as a direct result of Mermaids? Organisations who turn a blind eye are just as complicit. Posters here and on Twitter and in media have been shouting about Mermaids from their rooftops. There is no way that they did not know. Shame on all of them. Standing by and patting themselves on the back whilst children were experimented on. Shame on every single one. Has anyone a list so we can tweet them and ask why?

PrinceYakimov · 02/12/2022 14:39

This is enormously serious for the trustees because of the vulnerability of the groups they work with. They are in deep deep shit.

I wonder if they really understand the seriousness of their situation though. Because even with a statutory investigation ongoing, Mermaids has still this week been blithely putting out its usual lobbying guff on social media re children's NHS services. Who is now calling the shots at Mermaids and deciding that they just carry on? They don't have a CEO or an interim - so who is making the decisions now? Is it the trustees? If I were them I would just shut down all comms for a bit. So that makes me wonder whether they are just so blinkered that they don't fully realise they are about to get their arses massively handed to them.

viques · 02/12/2022 14:40

RoyalCorgi · 02/12/2022 13:52

Interesting statement from Mermaids. Possibly the first time they have admitted to doing anything wrong.

Other thoughts:

  1. The Mermaids legal action against the Charities Commission must be one of the most counter-productive legal actions in history.
  2. The Guardian's decision to run a fawning interview with Susie Green that played down the existing CC investigation and all the other problems now looks even more stupid than it did then.
  3. Who's going to want the CEO role now? Grin
  4. Have Emma Watson et al embarked upon a mass delete of their tweets yet?
  5. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Aw, I’m sure Emma is calling up all her celeb friends to put together a fund raiser, not to mention dipping into her own bank balance to support the fight against The Charity Commission all those mean GC terfs.

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 14:40

With the amount of staff employed by the charity commission law of averages dictates that some of those staff have to be on mumsnet.

So to those staff members can you please point the statutory enquiry team in the direction of the many threads on this site about the wrong doings of mermaids over the years.

Thanks in advance

ControversialOpening · 02/12/2022 14:40

For the first time ever, I am keen to hear what Owen Jones thinks

usually OJ is quick to tweet about these matters, but nothing from him so far. He’s tweeting an interview with Charlotte Church about being an ‘ally’.

Bad timing Charlotte.

ArabellaScott · 02/12/2022 14:40

RocketPanda · 02/12/2022 14:37

There's no glory in this. How many children and families have been forever harmed as a direct result of Mermaids? Organisations who turn a blind eye are just as complicit. Posters here and on Twitter and in media have been shouting about Mermaids from their rooftops. There is no way that they did not know. Shame on all of them. Standing by and patting themselves on the back whilst children were experimented on. Shame on every single one. Has anyone a list so we can tweet them and ask why?

twitter.com/FemmeLoves/status/1577428941199257600

List of people who've supported Mermaids.

WarriorN · 02/12/2022 14:41

Baroness Nichol:

"So far my 6,000 plus formal complaints against my being a member of the House ofLords all seem to have come from,through or scented by Mermaids;a very fishy business indeed 🎣🎏🐡"

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 14:42

PrinceYakimov · 02/12/2022 14:39

This is enormously serious for the trustees because of the vulnerability of the groups they work with. They are in deep deep shit.

I wonder if they really understand the seriousness of their situation though. Because even with a statutory investigation ongoing, Mermaids has still this week been blithely putting out its usual lobbying guff on social media re children's NHS services. Who is now calling the shots at Mermaids and deciding that they just carry on? They don't have a CEO or an interim - so who is making the decisions now? Is it the trustees? If I were them I would just shut down all comms for a bit. So that makes me wonder whether they are just so blinkered that they don't fully realise they are about to get their arses massively handed to them.

They obviously didn't understand what their role as trustee actually meant. That's biting them in the bum now.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/12/2022 14:45

Pink News have reported it now, and used their "reporting" to attack LGB Alliance Hmm

CountZacular · 02/12/2022 14:46

www.thepinknews.com/2022/12/02/charity-commission-mermaids-investigation-statutory-inquiry/

Interesting take. A lot of skirting round it whilst shouting 'right wing media' and 'LGBA'. I'm just LOJ will retweet pink news and blame 'transphobes' for this.