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Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.

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ScreamingMeMe · 21/11/2022 19:02

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Waitwhat23 · 23/11/2022 19:52

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 19:18

I can't believe any of you actually like Daim bars? I need to start a facebook page to make sure everyone knows I do NOT associate myself with this foul confectionary.

Give me a Turkish Delight any day.

All Turkish Delight should be blasted into the sun, particularly stuff mass produced here (Frys?). I'm sure a food critic, possibly Jay Raynor, described it as looking 'like bits of innards, covered in icing sugar'. Gah, I want to scrape my tongue off even thinking about it.

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 19:53

Waitwhat23 · 23/11/2022 19:52

All Turkish Delight should be blasted into the sun, particularly stuff mass produced here (Frys?). I'm sure a food critic, possibly Jay Raynor, described it as looking 'like bits of innards, covered in icing sugar'. Gah, I want to scrape my tongue off even thinking about it.

Mmmm sugary gelatinous mouth-clag...

FOJN · 23/11/2022 20:40

I know KJK doesn't call herself a feminist, and I think that's a shame. From everything she does she ACTS like a feminist. I think taking your balls home and going your own way might have been self-preservation in her mind, but I believe a lot of women would like to see some healthy, moderated and less-faction oriented disagreement.

KJK, hasn't to my knowledge, initiated a public disagreement with anyone but she is frequently attacked by feminists for her methods. I've seen her express frustration at the way she is attacked but more often I see her championing the work of the women who attack her.

I'm not sure that she struck out on her own for self preservation but more because she wants to do things her way and knows she would have to compromise too much to be accepted by those who think they own feminism. I think she has made the right choice, she's very effective and isn't putting feminists with different approaches down.

AutumnLeaves23 · 23/11/2022 21:21

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/11/2022 19:17

According to google Compared to the national crime rate, Brighton's crime rate is at 94%. Violent crime makes up 33.8% of all crimes reported in the postcode area. The total number of "violent crime" is 27.0k, and this number has increased by 10.3% when compared year-over-year in the period of October 2021 - September 2022.

Spending hours investigating KJK makes great sense in the face of these trivial figures 🙄

This is worrying, I wonder why Brighton is experiencing this increase in crime?

HatefulHaberdashery · 23/11/2022 22:18

Sequenca · 23/11/2022 17:56

I'm also bemused as to why she raised 40K, just to send a legal pre-action letter, and then settle with Nottingham Council. Not sure what happened to the rest of the funds, since no legal action letter should cost that much, even with the undoubtedly stellar cast of lawyers she had lined up to fight her case.

What exactly are you implying here?

Exactly what I said.

Bindel raised almost £40,000 to commence legal action against Nottingham Council. Her legal action against them consisted of an action letter or two at best, as Nottingham council settled, and the case never went to court. As part of the settlement, Nottingham council also agreed to pay the costs of the those who had paid for their tickets to hear Julie speak.

So, it's very reasonable to ask what happened to the rest of the funds, as, AFAIK, a legal letter doesn't cost 40k?

Or do you think nobody should ask any questions, or Julie is immune to legitimate scrutiny?

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 22:34

It says this on her crowd funding page:

Thank you again for all your support. Any remaining funds will be moved over to a very good CrowdJustice fund, to support similar cases.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/11/2022 22:36

*I should imagine that @Ereshkigalangcleg meant that the accusation that KJK is thick is a bizarre accusation when it's very obvious she is not.
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You are correct, @RoseslnTheHospital

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/11/2022 22:40

Yep that was Daimbars

Ah, yes, Daimbars. I wonder what she's up to? I remember telling her how jarring I found her personal blog when I read it following a link online. It was like two totally different people, her MN persona and her blog.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 23/11/2022 22:49

I don’t think daimbars was banned at all…

TinselAngel · 23/11/2022 22:53

Thank you again for all your support. Any remaining funds will be moved over to a very good CrowdJustice fund, to support similar cases.
There can't be a rule against her telling us which one?

HatefulHaberdashery · 23/11/2022 23:12

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 22:34

It says this on her crowd funding page:

Thank you again for all your support. Any remaining funds will be moved over to a very good CrowdJustice fund, to support similar cases.

So, what is the name of the "very good CrowdJustice fund" which will "support similar cases"?

Is there a reason why Bindel cannot specify either the fund, or the similar cases?

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 23:16

Oh I hadn't realised there's no accounting for that money. Why doesn't she say which crowd funder it went to? Surely women who donated have a right to know where their money's gone? What if we don't want to donate to Julie's choice?

This doesn't look good.

TinselAngel · 23/11/2022 23:19

It does feel a bit like it's been decided that us lessers don't need to know.

I didn't donate to Bindel's crowdfund because as PPs have said it seemed quite obvious it wouldn't go to court, but if I had, I'd be miffed.

2plus2equals5 · 23/11/2022 23:22

Ah yes, I remember now why I didn't donate to JB - I thought at the time the amount being raised was rather OTT given it wasn't clear that the legal action would go ahead.

I do think when you donate you just need to wave that money goodbye, although it really wouldn't hurt to know where the money's been diverted to in this case. I've tended to wait until further along in other cases until it was certain the money was needed.

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 23:26

What was that case where crowdfunder said they were going to give the money raised for a woman to trans charities instead?

I know it wasn't this one but it does show up the need for proper transparency. People want to know where their money's going and that's fair enough.

2plus2equals5 · 23/11/2022 23:26

This thread has gone a bit off topic, but I'd love to know if KJK is on the Daim bars or Turkish delight side of the debate.

I'm imagining her to be on the Turkish Delight side which is obviously the right side of confectionary history.

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 23:27

Yes 2+2! The delightful side of history!

TinselAngel · 23/11/2022 23:34

2plus2equals5 · 23/11/2022 23:22

Ah yes, I remember now why I didn't donate to JB - I thought at the time the amount being raised was rather OTT given it wasn't clear that the legal action would go ahead.

I do think when you donate you just need to wave that money goodbye, although it really wouldn't hurt to know where the money's been diverted to in this case. I've tended to wait until further along in other cases until it was certain the money was needed.

I wonder if it went to Sarah Summers case? They're both on Crowdjustice.

IwantToRetire · 24/11/2022 00:17

I dont know if crowdfunders have to comply with charity rules but if they do they any money donated for a specific cause can only be used for that. Unless of course it has been also been specific that any money left over from the specified cause will go to namedproject. I am surprised that someone like JB who is in the public eye would think they could get away with that. Apart from what it says about her, it could have a negative effect on other crowdfunders.

Isn't it strange. If someone in mainstream politics behaved like that there would be lots of tweets and memes about money being misused.

But then FiLia still haven't clarified whether they are using money donated to them to run a conference is being used by the Trustees to take legal action against a women who was forcibly removed by male security at last year's social. She asked for an apology on the basis that female security were advertised, but also because of past experience of male violence it was triggering for her and some of those who saw it happening, which they refused to do.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/11/2022 00:31

I do think when you donate you just need to wave that money goodbye

I agree. I've always approached it on that basis.

Shelefttheweb · 24/11/2022 01:27

I dont know if crowdfunders have to comply with charity rules but if they do they any money donated for a specific cause can only be used for that.

Though crowdfunded states that left over money will be used for other cases so you give on that basis.

Shelefttheweb · 24/11/2022 01:28

I think KJK doesn’t call herself a feminist because she is not interested in arguing over what a feminist is. It is irrelevant to her cause so why bother with the distraction.

NewLightbulbs · 24/11/2022 02:12

Purely out of interest, where do the Brighton Feminists stand on, and I quote, "Sarah’s Legal Challenge to Secure Female Only Rape Crisis Therapy"?

SapphosRock · 24/11/2022 06:51

They are very supportive

brightonsisters.wordpress.com/campaigns/

beastlyslumber · 24/11/2022 07:04

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/11/2022 00:31

I do think when you donate you just need to wave that money goodbye

I agree. I've always approached it on that basis.

I agree too (unless it's being appropriated for a cause I don't support) but that doesn't mean the person being funded shouldn't be accountable and transparent.

I did not know that about Filia, either.

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