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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How many transwomen/trans girls detransition?

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piddocktrumperiness · 05/11/2022 10:47

Just that really. I can't quite find stats for this. If you've stumbled across something or know of this, do many young teen trans girls de transition? Do many older trans women detransition?

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BlackForestCake · 07/11/2022 12:29

I was not expecting to log on to Mumsnet and find someone saying “Galileo should just have been kind”

DodoPatrol · 07/11/2022 12:29

Well done to the pragmatic headteacher for holding his nerve and making enough space for your DD to manage both her temporary identity and her schoolwork. If only we could bottle that and send it to every school!

Our school managed things well for their one boy-transitioner. He slightly changed his name and look, but stayed in the boys’ sports teams with strict warnings that anyone taking the piss would be sat on, so he didn’t get isolated from friendships. And at the move to sixth form, he has quietly dropped the female name and (according to my teenage informant) ‘just dresses like everyone else’ and would prefer the subject wasn’t brought up.

Livvy will probably see that as a heartbreaking tale of a hostile environment causing a teenager to deny their real gender identity, rather than a low-key exploration of gender followed by desistance.

Babasghost · 07/11/2022 14:08

I love how the tone of this discussion cools and smarten when our Usa trolls go to bed.

Solidarity sister's. Preventing harm to a whole generation of children is worth having to witness the mantrums of those wedded to removing safeguards and medicalising children for life every time someone wants to talk about worries.
Protect your girls from sexualized lazy stereotypes.
Mecano for Xmas for everyone!!

GivenitupGerty · 07/11/2022 15:33

@Babasghost
It's interesting that someone such as my dd who went through a whole lot of counselling and therapy just decided it was enough.

I do think the 'plastic fantastic' love island look has pushed women back to the 1970s. Statistically we are also losing ground in the jobs market again.
I am both sad and fuming.

I am buying a bag for my son and a apple watch for my dd. Didn't even think they were gender specific!

Babasghost · 07/11/2022 17:51

GivenitupGerty · 07/11/2022 15:33

@Babasghost
It's interesting that someone such as my dd who went through a whole lot of counselling and therapy just decided it was enough.

I do think the 'plastic fantastic' love island look has pushed women back to the 1970s. Statistically we are also losing ground in the jobs market again.
I am both sad and fuming.

I am buying a bag for my son and a apple watch for my dd. Didn't even think they were gender specific!

They sound awesome gifts!

Agreed it's really horrible watching us lose ground.
Frightening in fact.
I blame porn hub and men!

Emmelina · 07/11/2022 18:08

NotTerfNorCis · 07/11/2022 08:15

TRAs claim less than 1% detransition, but how would they know? There seems to be more and more reports of young women regretting their transition, and there's bound to be even more who quietly detransition without announcing it on social media.

Yes, I think a lot will quietly de transition in the background for fear of backlash. They can’t ask for advice from their trans group because detransitioning isn’t an acceptable thing. They probably feel they can’t ask for support from those they’ve just spent months/years convincing they are not their born gender and just accept me! So either stay trans and unhappy out of stubbornness/saving face, or detransition off record.

GivenitupGerty · 07/11/2022 19:19

@Emmelina
There is a stubbornness with my dc. She is now not questioning people using her birth name but will not use it herself yet. I think she is adjusting gently and we walk on egg shells.

Of her school cohort of 2 gay females, two trans (1 ftm, 1 mtf)1 bi. Only one gay female friend is still using this description. Three are ND with full diagnosis.
My dc wanted intervention and no one in the medical profession asked if there was any incident that may have been a catalyst. I ended up ringing off the record to ask if they had read her medical notes!
I was called a bigot and trans hater. Not true. What you do as an adult with your money is your business. To provide a 'service' to children is abuse.
Who pays the compensation for all the children harmed by 'right on' theorists? I will fight to the bitter end to expose these medical experiments. You are what you are but it doesn't need surgery. Kindness would be helpful not fighting and aggression.

Emmelina · 07/11/2022 19:58

@GivenitupGerty absolutely!
I knew I was ‘different’ growing up. I didn’t ‘get’ the other girls going gaga over the lads, felt uncomfortable with them gossiping, spraying their hair, doing makeup. And they could be mean! My besties were boys. I wore my hair above my shoulders because it felt uncomfortable on my neck. I played football and hockey.
Today I’m certain I’d be encouraged towards the “maybe you prefer boy things because on the inside you are one”. I actually think I’m neurodivergent, further cemented by 2 confirmed ASD children (the third is up for debate but would not surprise me!), but I can see how being told “you feel odd because of this AND THAT’S OKAY” can seem like a (very extreme!) lifeline.
But it’s almost trendy at the moment, and it’s so dangerous.

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