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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Starmer and his 99.9%

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bellinisurge · 31/10/2022 13:48

The Labour leader is desperately trying to stay on the fence with his 99.9% of women are biological women schtick.

He repeated it in the recent MN interview.

Let me be clear, as he is so fond of saying, 100% of women are biological women. And as long as you keep pandering to this alleged "0.1%", we will lose the language we need to describe us, and we will lose the right to single sex spaces. Women are a sex class. And any attempt to pretend otherwise will fall over at the first scrutiny. And you will lose the election because you have manufactured an existential crisis for women. Try harder.

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FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:32

A few screenshots. The one saying Mumsnet (what the whole site) can't attack Starmer now! They haven't found this thread yet!

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FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:34

I didn't realise 'biological women' was a dog whistle, what does that mean? To be honest I don't really understand dog whistles so someone tell me about them too please.

bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 20:44

Biological women is a person who was observed female at birth, the one with the large gametes and the DNA that transwomen can never have.

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Hepwo · 01/11/2022 21:02

Mumsnet is trending on Twitter! They hate us! They hate everyone and everything 🙄

bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 21:12

To quote Posie "Your Mum's a Terf" 😂😂😂😂 #TwitterTrend

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Blablablaaaaa · 01/11/2022 21:18

Yep, still not voting Labour, still not convinced.

TheBiologyStupid · 01/11/2022 21:21

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:34

I didn't realise 'biological women' was a dog whistle, what does that mean? To be honest I don't really understand dog whistles so someone tell me about them too please.

"Biological women" is disliked by trans activists because it threatens their view that "transwomen are women" by pointing out a basic fact that they want to ignore.

A "dog whistle" is a word or phrase that sounds perfectly normal but allegedly contains a secret/hidden meaning that some opponents will hear and recognise. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics)

Pixiedust1234 · 01/11/2022 21:49

So both Mumsnet and Twitter are saying #downwithstarmer? And to think he only wanted biscuits with Justine. Poor, poor man 😥

MarshaBradyo · 01/11/2022 21:50

That’s the thing though he can’t please both sides at the same time. By fudging it in the middle both get annoyed.

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 21:58

TheBiologyStupid · 01/11/2022 21:21

"Biological women" is disliked by trans activists because it threatens their view that "transwomen are women" by pointing out a basic fact that they want to ignore.

A "dog whistle" is a word or phrase that sounds perfectly normal but allegedly contains a secret/hidden meaning that some opponents will hear and recognise. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics)

Thank you. So biological woman is secret code for saying not men who say they are women! My goodness that really is clutching at straws. Taking my language and making it offensive because it doesn't include them!

I agree Starmer is always sitting on the fence.

mummywithtwokidsplusdog · 01/11/2022 22:00

I feel really let down by Labour, SNP and the greens .. biological sex and gender are not the same thing. Every cell in your body has a copy of your sex chromosomes - this is biological fact. I understand that some individuals will identify as female- that is clearly absolutely fine but their biological sex isn't changeable- you cannot change the chromosomes in every cell! ….everyone needs to understand and be at peace with that. %s is a nonsense and KS is intelligent enough to know that. As should all other politicians - after all half of their voters are biologically female!

bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:01

Starmer has to come off the fence sometime.

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:02

This is about the 51%, not the alleged 0.01%

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TheBiologyStupid · 01/11/2022 22:05

bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:02

This is about the 51%, not the alleged 0.01%

Absolutely. And since the TRAs hate him now anyway, he might as well stand up for the 51% - unambiguously and right now before it's too late.

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 22:09

They are confusing social transition which is not medical with Gillick Competence. Is this a deliberate conflation?
twitter.com/FurnessYoungLab/status/1587557840121733122?t=LHFKbYYKBxCQboCJjQwq3w&s=19

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:14

Yes they are deliberately and/or cultishly conflating the two. Gender dysphoria both is and is not a medical condition that does and does not require healthcare. Depending on what flimsy argument TRAs are punting. And it always requires unquestioning affirmation or you are a Nazi.

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:16

And not all trans people have gender dysphoria so you are also a Nazi if you say they must have gender dysphoria.

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SecretTransTwitterEngineer · 01/11/2022 22:30

I think at some point you guys have to understand that you're not going to be able to remove our rights under the EA and GRA, as much as you may desire to. Reform of the GRA is almost inevitable as well - what you gonna do when, like in 78 states / countries / provinces, nothing happens at all?

I believe that why you're so bothered about Scotland - you know it'll show the 'gender critical' fearmongering to be a lie.

On the plus side for you, looks like you'll get Twitter, trans ppl are finding alternatives in their droves and it looks like Musky wants to make it into a slightly more attractive 4 chan. Already had my 2nd death threat in 2 weeks (one from a 'GC' and the other from someone aligned with you)..joys.

Anyway..have fun with your new friends. I'll be trashing this account as I am doing with my Twitter, hopefully never to have the misfortune to meet a hideous 'GC' ever again

Hepwo · 01/11/2022 22:51

Us guys?

It's definitely you guys, not us guys. We aren't guys.

Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

Thelnebriati · 01/11/2022 22:51

This Never Happens, ay right, just as you say. Ta ra.

Pixiedust1234 · 01/11/2022 22:59

SecretTransTwitterEngineer · 01/11/2022 22:30

I think at some point you guys have to understand that you're not going to be able to remove our rights under the EA and GRA, as much as you may desire to. Reform of the GRA is almost inevitable as well - what you gonna do when, like in 78 states / countries / provinces, nothing happens at all?

I believe that why you're so bothered about Scotland - you know it'll show the 'gender critical' fearmongering to be a lie.

On the plus side for you, looks like you'll get Twitter, trans ppl are finding alternatives in their droves and it looks like Musky wants to make it into a slightly more attractive 4 chan. Already had my 2nd death threat in 2 weeks (one from a 'GC' and the other from someone aligned with you)..joys.

Anyway..have fun with your new friends. I'll be trashing this account as I am doing with my Twitter, hopefully never to have the misfortune to meet a hideous 'GC' ever again

78 states / countries / provinces

I have repeatedly asked you to list the 78 or link to the official list on several threads. Im still waiting on your evidence. Please provide otherwise I'm going to assume you are being evasive deliberately and anything you post won't be taken seriously in future.

Pixiedust1234 · 01/11/2022 23:01

oh.... I missed the flounce bit Blush

Asdavaluesausage · 01/11/2022 23:04

SecretTransTwitterEngineer · 01/11/2022 22:30

I think at some point you guys have to understand that you're not going to be able to remove our rights under the EA and GRA, as much as you may desire to. Reform of the GRA is almost inevitable as well - what you gonna do when, like in 78 states / countries / provinces, nothing happens at all?

I believe that why you're so bothered about Scotland - you know it'll show the 'gender critical' fearmongering to be a lie.

On the plus side for you, looks like you'll get Twitter, trans ppl are finding alternatives in their droves and it looks like Musky wants to make it into a slightly more attractive 4 chan. Already had my 2nd death threat in 2 weeks (one from a 'GC' and the other from someone aligned with you)..joys.

Anyway..have fun with your new friends. I'll be trashing this account as I am doing with my Twitter, hopefully never to have the misfortune to meet a hideous 'GC' ever again

Flouncers corner is that way —————>

Thelnebriati · 01/11/2022 23:07

the dominant class get to say This Never Happens.
the affected class are left with #metoo

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 23:28

Also the word families is a dog whistle now too.

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